For all mankind.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have recently got a rare, old and precious movie, and the quality is not too bad. "For all mankind". It is about NASA "lunar missions". Do you have it or I should try uploading to Youtube, so everyone could watch it? It is even funnier than I thought.

In the meantime, enjoy just two screenshots, 04:02 and 04:24. The "austronauts" are coming to the "spaceship", to "fly" to the "moon":

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I know the moon missions were bull, but what is so funny about the pics.

I know the moon missions were bull, but what is so funny about the pics.

Come on hoppy there's no porter. They are making them carry their own luggage.
I wonder what's in them bags?

I think (not so) Humble_Scientist was alluding to the difference in equipment between the two stills. Given that this was a documentary, I imagine they would have used file footage from a number of Apollo missions to make the film. There would have been numerous revisions and modifications to their equipment over time, so it is not surprising to see two different sets of gear in the documentary.

I wonder what's in them bags?

Portable oxygen supply, and possibly some other equipment associated with the running of the suits. The astronauts would have had to prepare for the reduced pressure, pure O₂ environment that they would be living in for the duration of the mission. In order to avoid the pain and potential incapacitation that comes with nitrogen bubbles in the blood, they would have been breathing pure oxygen for an hour or so before boarding. U2 pilots also do this before each flight.

I know the moon missions were bull, but what is so funny about the pics.

Wow. Just a few funny things:

The first image: NASA emblems on the right shoulders
The second image: no NASA emblems on the right shoulders

The first image: all the hoses going from their luggage to the "spacesuits" are white
The second image: the second "astronaut" has black hoses, with white bands

The first image: two of the three "spacesuits" have hoses attached on both sides
The second image: two of the three "spacesuits" have hoses attached on the right side

The second image: the first "astronaut's" hoses have nice red and blue ends at the "spacesuits"
The first image: all hoses have white ends

The first image: red bands (tape?) around arms and legs of the first "astronaut". Later, no "astronauts" in the elevator has them.

The first image: all pieces of their luggage are dark-blue
The second image: light grey

The first image, luggage: small upper handle
The second image: big handle

Look at the size and shape of the luggage in both images

Now look at the right side of the "astronauts'" chests. First image: no NASA emblem. Second image: NASA emblem.

Now look at their gloves, how different they are... Look at the second image, blue stuff on the right sleeve of the first guy, - nothing like that in the first picture. Wait a minute... yes, here we are... look at the screenshot at 04:06. What is that on the back of the second "astronaut"? Look at the their luggage, this side should be the same as the front side in the second image... Where is the white stuff in the second image? Where are the brass terminals in the first image? etc. etc. etc.

 

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OK, so the fact that these are most likely pictures from two different missions and therefore are using different technology never crossed your mind?

That one of the guys has red markings on his sleeve probably indicates that he is the commander of the crew maybe?

I mean sports teams change their uniforms every couple years or so.

OK, so the fact that these are most likely pictures from two different missions and therefore are using different technology never crossed your mind?

That one of the guys has red markings on his sleeve probably indicates that he is the commander of the crew maybe?

I mean sports teams change their uniforms every couple years or so.

Exactly. Look at the technology (03:11):

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Is it scotch or ducktape?

Wow, this movie is a real treasure. Apollo funs in the audience, could you please tell me, are the astronauts in the first image I placed the same as in the second picture? We can decide if this was the same mission or different ones. I can send you the movie... or may be, upload it to Youtube, for it is so important (01:17:08):

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Is it scotch or ducktape?

Wow, this movie is a real treasure. Apollo funs in the audience, could you please tell me, are the astronauts in the first image I placed the same as in the second picture? We can decide if this was the same mission or different ones. I can send you the movie... or may be, upload it to Youtube, for it is so important (01:17:08):

Well, looks to me like they are making adjustments to the tubing of the suit.  Therefore the ends haven't been finished yet.

As for the first two images that you posted, I cannot tell if the people are the same or not, however as the suits are different, the images are most likely from different missions.

The things that you find funny and use to support your claim of a moon hoax really do not prove anything.

Quote from: hoppy on January 25, 2014, 02:19:15 PM

I know the moon missions were bull, but what is so funny about the pics.

Wow. Just a few funny things:

The first image: NASA emblems on the right shoulders
The second image: no NASA emblems on the right shoulders

The first image: all the hoses going from their luggage to the "spacesuits" are white
The second image: the second "astronaut" has black hoses, with white bands

The first image: two of the three "spacesuits" have hoses attached on both sides
The second image: two of the three "spacesuits" have hoses attached on the right side

The second image: the first "astronaut's" hoses have nice red and blue ends at the "spacesuits"
The first image: all hoses have white ends

The first image: red bands (tape?) around arms and legs of the first "astronaut". Later, no "astronauts" in the elevator has them.

The first image: all pieces of their luggage are dark-blue
The second image: light grey

The first image, luggage: small upper handle
The second image: big handle

Look at the size and shape of the luggage in both images

Now look at the right side of the "astronauts'" chests. First image: no NASA emblem. Second image: NASA emblem.

Now look at their gloves, how different they are... Look at the second image, blue stuff on the right sleeve of the first guy, - nothing like that in the first picture. Wait a minute... yes, here we are... look at the screenshot at 04:06. What is that on the back of the second "astronaut"? Look at the their luggage, this side should be the same as the front side in the second image... Where is the white stuff in the second image? Where are the brass terminals in the first image? etc. etc. etc.

 

It's a great DVD which I have watched many times. You should check the director's commentary where Al Reinert explains that although the documentary seems to show a single moon mission it is actually a mish-mash of footage from all six Apollo missions that successfully landed on the moon (11, 12 14, 15, 16 & 17) as well as footage from the earlier Apollo and Gemini missions. A lot of the imagery is out of context, for example rocket launch footage coming from the earlier Apollo missions and spacewalks from the Gemini missions instead!

Also no need to upload it to YouTube, it's already there. Part 1 can be found at #" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">For All Mankind Part 1 you can then follow the rest from there.

OK, so the fact that these are most likely pictures from two different missions and therefore are using different technology never crossed your mind?

Exactly, about 10 years worth of footage covering 29 missions. During the first couple of minutes of documentary before the first screenshot Humble posted they show clips of astronauts gearing up and getting checked out before transfer to the rocket. Those are taken from at least two different missions with the NASA logos switching arms and being located in different rooms. The NASA emblem was moved to the right arm from Apollo 15 onwards.

That one of the guys has red markings on his sleeve probably indicates that he is the commander of the crew maybe?

I mean sports teams change their uniforms every couple years or so.

Red bands indicate the mission commander and are on both arms and legs, this started with the Apollo 13 mission and was introduced in order to differentiate between the two astronauts in images/video captured on the moon.

Exactly, about 10 years worth of footage covering 29 missions. During the first couple of minutes of documentary before the first screenshot Humble posted they show clips of astronauts gearing up and getting checked out before transfer to the rocket. Those are taken from at least two different missions with the NASA logos switching arms and being located in different rooms. The NASA emblem was moved to the right arm from Apollo 15 onwards.


Red bands indicate the mission commander and are on both arms and legs, this started with the Apollo 13 mission and was introduced in order to differentiate between the two astronauts in images/video captured on the moon.

Thank you. So, one mission is in the shuttle bus and another is leaving it... interesting. The same mission is using different equipment... very interesting. May I ask you, who was filming that (01:13:15):

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The mission is leaving the Moon. All the crew is inside, right? Who is filming?

Exactly. Look at the technology (03:11):

Is it scotch or ducktape?

Wow, this movie is a real treasure. Apollo funs in the audience, could you please tell me, are the astronauts in the first image I placed the same as in the second picture? We can decide if this was the same mission or different ones. I can send you the movie... or may be, upload it to Youtube, for it is so important (01:17:08):

Well for starters the following image doesn't show an Apollo astronaut as he doesn't have an Apollo mission patch over his left breast.

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From the mission patch, this is Apollo 16 led by John W. Young (Commander).

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Again, this isn't an Apollo mission as there is no patch.
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Earlier in the documentary you see astronauts with the Apollo 15 patch, for example here (#t=138" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">#t=138) which looks like James Irwin (Lunar Module Pilot).

Oh and

I have recently got a rare, old and precious movie, and the quality is not too bad.

Yup, so rare it's available to buy on Amazon.

Quote from: dephelis on January 25, 2014, 04:47:06 PM

Exactly, about 10 years worth of footage covering 29 missions. During the first couple of minutes of documentary before the first screenshot Humble posted they show clips of astronauts gearing up and getting checked out before transfer to the rocket. Those are taken from at least two different missions with the NASA logos switching arms and being located in different rooms. The NASA emblem was moved to the right arm from Apollo 15 onwards.


Red bands indicate the mission commander and are on both arms and legs, this started with the Apollo 13 mission and was introduced in order to differentiate between the two astronauts in images/video captured on the moon.

Thank you. So, one mission is in the shuttle bus and another is leaving it... interesting. The same mission is using different equipment... very interesting.

Not really, two different missions many years apart (Apollo and Gemini) and spliced together by the documentary .

Also:

It's a great DVD which I have watched many times. You should check the director's commentary where Al Reinert explains that although the documentary seems to show a single moon mission it is actually a mish-mash of footage from all six Apollo missions that successfully landed on the moon (11, 12 14, 15, 16 & 17) as well as footage from the earlier Apollo and Gemini missions. A lot of the imagery is out of context, for example rocket launch footage coming from the earlier Apollo missions and spacewalks from the Gemini missions instead!

Please listen to it before embarrassing yourself further.

May I ask you, who was filming that (01:13:15):

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The mission is leaving the Moon. All the crew is inside, right? Who is filming?

The camera on the rover which was parked specifically to film it. This has been covered before, please lurk moar.

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Quote from: dephelis on January 25, 2014, 04:47:06 PM

Exactly, about 10 years worth of footage covering 29 missions. During the first couple of minutes of documentary before the first screenshot Humble posted they show clips of astronauts gearing up and getting checked out before transfer to the rocket. Those are taken from at least two different missions with the NASA logos switching arms and being located in different rooms. The NASA emblem was moved to the right arm from Apollo 15 onwards.


Red bands indicate the mission commander and are on both arms and legs, this started with the Apollo 13 mission and was introduced in order to differentiate between the two astronauts in images/video captured on the moon.

Thank you. So, one mission is in the shuttle bus and another is leaving it... interesting. The same mission is using different equipment... very interesting.

Not really, two different missions many years apart (Apollo and Gemini) and spliced together by the documentary .

Also:

Quote from: dephelis on January 25, 2014, 04:47:06 PM

It's a great DVD which I have watched many times. You should check the director's commentary where Al Reinert explains that although the documentary seems to show a single moon mission it is actually a mish-mash of footage from all six Apollo missions that successfully landed on the moon (11, 12 14, 15, 16 & 17) as well as footage from the earlier Apollo and Gemini missions. A lot of the imagery is out of context, for example rocket launch footage coming from the earlier Apollo missions and spacewalks from the Gemini missions instead!

Please listen to it before embarrassing yourself further.

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May I ask you, who was filming that (01:13:15):

The mission is leaving the Moon. All the crew is inside, right? Who is filming?

The camera on the rover which was parked specifically to film it. This has been covered before, please lurk moar.

Dear dephelis,

Thank you for your answers. I am just trying to understand what is in this movie.

Not really, two different missions many years apart (Apollo and Gemini) and spliced together by the documentary

Why the same mission with the badges, a genuine mission, as you pointed out,  is using different spacesuits?

A lot of the imagery is out of context, for example rocket launch footage coming from the earlier Apollo missions and spacewalks from the Gemini missions instead!

This is very strange indeed. The movie clearly says (01:57 - 02:04):


and


Could you please tell me, why would the "men" who "made the journey" bring back from the Moon the film filled with "a lot of the imagery" that "is out of context"?

If these people in the spacesuits that are coming into the cabin of the elevator carrying them to the rocket are not the members of the mission ("this isn't an Apollo mission as there is no patch", as you indicated), then who are they?

Dear dephelis,

Thank you for your answers. I am just trying to understand what is in this movie.

Not really, two different missions many years apart (Apollo and Gemini) and spliced together by the documentary

Why the same mission with the badges, a genuine mission, as you pointed out,  is using different spacesuits?

Please re-read my comments. It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

A lot of the imagery is out of context, for example rocket launch footage coming from the earlier Apollo missions and spacewalks from the Gemini missions instead!

This is very strange indeed. The movie clearly says (01:57 - 02:04):

"Twenty-four men made the journey.
They were the first human beings
to leave the planet Earth
for another world.

This is the film they brought back..."

and

"Filmed on location by the Unites States
National Aeronautic and Space Administration."

Could you please tell me, why would the "men" who "made the journey" bring back from the Moon the film filled with "a lot of the imagery" that "is out of context"?

If these people in the spacesuits that are coming into the cabin of the elevator carrying them to the rocket are not the members of the mission ("this isn't an Apollo mission as there is no patch", as you indicated), then who are they?

Now you are either being deliberately obtuse or no longer care about the subject to troll effectively. Hey ho, I can't sleep so I might as well feed you.

Listen to the director's commentary on your DVD and it explains how this documentary was made. He himself will explain why things are out of context.

The part of the documentary that shows astronauts walking down a corridor (your first screenshot) was recorded during the Apollo 15 mission. The part of the documentary that shows astronauts going into the elevator was recorded during either the early Apollo missions or Gemini missions many years earlier. Al Reinert stuck the two together to make a single sequence. How hard is it to understand the this is a documentary made in 1987 from video and audio recorded from 1962 to 1972?

Twenty four men may have made the journey to and onto the Moon, but they did it three at a time over several missions and over several years.

Any chance your next message/troll could actually be thought out?

Any chance your next message/troll could actually be thought out?

From what I've seen so far, that might be asking too much.

Quote from: Humble_Scientist on January 25, 2014, 06:18:53 PM

Dear dephelis,

Thank you for your answers. I am just trying to understand what is in this movie.

Not really, two different missions many years apart (Apollo and Gemini) and spliced together by the documentary

Why the same mission with the badges, a genuine mission, as you pointed out,  is using different spacesuits?

Please re-read my comments. It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

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A lot of the imagery is out of context, for example rocket launch footage coming from the earlier Apollo missions and spacewalks from the Gemini missions instead!

This is very strange indeed. The movie clearly says (01:57 - 02:04):

"Twenty-four men made the journey.
They were the first human beings
to leave the planet Earth
for another world.

This is the film they brought back..."

and

"Filmed on location by the Unites States
National Aeronautic and Space Administration."

Could you please tell me, why would the "men" who "made the journey" bring back from the Moon the film filled with "a lot of the imagery" that "is out of context"?

If these people in the spacesuits that are coming into the cabin of the elevator carrying them to the rocket are not the members of the mission ("this isn't an Apollo mission as there is no patch", as you indicated), then who are they?

Now you are either being deliberately obtuse or no longer care about the subject to troll effectively. Hey ho, I can't sleep so I might as well feed you.

Listen to the director's commentary on your DVD and it explains how this documentary was made. He himself will explain why things are out of context.

The part of the documentary that shows astronauts walking down a corridor (your first screenshot) was recorded during the Apollo 15 mission. The part of the documentary that shows astronauts going into the elevator was recorded during either the early Apollo missions or Gemini missions many years earlier. Al Reinert stuck the two together to make a single sequence. How hard is it to understand the this is a documentary made in 1987 from video and audio recorded from 1962 to 1972?

Twenty four men may have made the journey to and onto the Moon, but they did it three at a time over several missions and over several years.

Any chance your next message/troll could actually be thought out?

Any chance that your next message/troll could actually be thought out?

I can't sleep so I might as well feed you.

You would better read your own post:

It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

Very good. Now please have a look at the third image that I placed, at 04:06. It is only four seconds after the first one, at 04:02, and showing the same "mission". You said it

shows astronauts walking down a corridor (your first screenshot) was recorded during the Apollo 15 mission.

The same "astronauts", just from the back. Are their "spacesuits" different or not?


Now you are either being deliberately obtuse or no longer care about the subject

I think you should be ashamed of yourself.


After what I have seen in just a few minutes of this movie and after your explanations, I am not going to believe a single word from NASA.


For the rest, I am finishing uploading the movie, so it will hopefully be available in a few minutes at:

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Enjoy.

Your video didn't work. But this one is interesting. I honestly am unsure what to think about the Manned Moon landings at this point in time. Could be real (robotic) footage mixed in with fake (manned) footage and we would never notice the difference.

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Funny thing is if it WAS a fake the suits would be almost certain to match.

Any chance that your next message/troll could actually be thought out?

I can't sleep so I might as well feed you.

You would better read your own post:

Clever and original .... well done!

It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

Very good. Now please have a look at the third image that I placed, at 04:06. It is only four seconds after the first one, at 04:02, and showing the same "mission". You said it

shows astronauts walking down a corridor (your first screenshot) was recorded during the Apollo 15 mission.

The same "astronauts", just from the back. Are their "spacesuits" different or not?

No need to refer to the second image, it is blatantly obvious that he is wearing a slightly different suit to the other two in the first image. The middle astronaut is wearing the CMB variant of the A7LB spacesuit, the first and third astronauts (the ones that land on the moon) are wearing the EVA variant of the A7LB. Two variants of the same type of suit, which have different entry methods. The CMB is opened via the back which is what the bulge is. The EVA opens diagonally across the front and from right to left across the back at the waist.

Sorry, this question wasn't clear to me the first time you asked it as I mentioned two Apollo missions.

Now you are either being deliberately obtuse or no longer care about the subject

I think you should be ashamed of yourself.


After what I have seen in just a few minutes of this movie and after your explanations, I am not going to believe a single word from NASA.

Quite, have you actually listened to the director's commentary yet? If you choose to continue posting poorly though out and easily explained (by the directors commentary for starters) "errors" in a documentary that uses (as it explains in the directors commentary) 6 million feet of film footage and 80 hours of NASA interviews from over 10 years.

It wasn't produced by NASA. Blame Al Reinart for not using footage from a single mission and creating this confusion for you.

For the rest, I am finishing uploading the movie, so it will hopefully be available in a few minutes at:

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Enjoy.

Why? Your account  is unverified so you can't post clips of more than 15 minutes. Besides, as I said earlier ... it is already there and has been for at least 6 years.

People like Humble_Scientist never let the facts get in the way of a good story.   

Conspiracy theorists are far to eager to see errors where there are none, and often trip themselves up in their eagerness to display their superior powers of observation and logic.  Even without knowing the back-story to these screen grabs, it's more than obvious they're all from different actual missions, dry runs, or equipment testing.

Quote from: Humble_Scientist on January 25, 2014, 07:38:37 PM

Any chance that your next message/troll could actually be thought out?

I can't sleep so I might as well feed you.

You would better read your own post:

Clever and original .... well done!

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It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

Very good. Now please have a look at the third image that I placed, at 04:06. It is only four seconds after the first one, at 04:02, and showing the same "mission". You said it

shows astronauts walking down a corridor (your first screenshot) was recorded during the Apollo 15 mission.

The same "astronauts", just from the back. Are their "spacesuits" different or not?

No need to refer to the second image, it is blatantly obvious that he is wearing a slightly different suit to the other two in the first image. The middle astronaut is wearing the CMB variant of the A7LB spacesuit, the first and third astronauts (the ones that land on the moon) are wearing the EVA variant of the A7LB. Two variants of the same type of suit, which have different entry methods. The CMB is opened via the back which is what the bulge is. The EVA opens diagonally across the front and from right to left across the back at the waist.

Sorry, this question wasn't clear to me the first time you asked it as I mentioned two Apollo missions.

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Now you are either being deliberately obtuse or no longer care about the subject

I think you should be ashamed of yourself.


After what I have seen in just a few minutes of this movie and after your explanations, I am not going to believe a single word from NASA.

Quite, have you actually listened to the director's commentary yet? If you choose to continue posting poorly though out and easily explained (by the directors commentary for starters) "errors" in a documentary that uses (as it explains in the directors commentary) 6 million feet of film footage and 80 hours of NASA interviews from over 10 years.

It wasn't produced by NASA. Blame Al Reinart for not using footage from a single mission and creating this confusion for you.

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Enjoy.

Why? Your account  is unverified so you can't post clips of more than 15 minutes. Besides, as I said earlier ... it is already there and has been for at least 6 years.

Dear dephelis,

Thanks for your reply. I just want to know the truth. Once I believed that the people were walking on the Moon, but the more I am watching this movie and listening to you, the less probable it seems.

Blame Al Reinart for not using footage from a single mission and creating this confusion for you.

Of course, I am not blaming you. I just want to explain why all that "moon landing" story now looks so doubtful to me. Briefly, just from a few minutes of the movie, and just a few examples.

(1) As we saw above, one "crew" is goind to the shuttle bus that is purposedly delivering the "mission" to the rocket, - and a different "crew" (or is it the same one? that would be even funnier) is leaving the bus, with a very different equipment. On top of all, you are telling me that the second "crew" is not a real Apollo mission, because they do not have stickers. Then, who are they? Fake "astronauts"? Actors? Other missions? Which exactly? Which missions had three people in them before Apollo missions?


(2) You told me:
It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

I showed you the picture. Now is what you are saying:
it is blatantly obvious that he is wearing a slightly different suit to the other two in the first image

(3) You said:
It wasn't produced by NASA

With all my due respect to your opinion, here is what I see at the end of the movie:

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People like Humble_Scientist never let the facts get in the way of a good story.   

Conspiracy theorists are far to eager to see errors where there are none, and often trip themselves up in their eagerness to display their superior powers of observation and logic.  Even without knowing the back-story to these screen grabs, it's more than obvious they're all from different actual missions, dry runs, or equipment testing.

Dear ausGeoff,

they're all from different actual missions, dry runs, or equipment testing.

This is what the movie itself says with such a solemnity:

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Do you seriously think that


and they brought back the film about "dry runs, or equipment testing"?

 

(3) You said:
It wasn't produced by NASA

With all my due respect to your opinion, here is what I see at the end of the movie:

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Are you saying you don't know the difference between "filmed" and "produced"?

Twenty-four men made the journey.
They were the first human beings
to leave the planet Earth
for another world.

and they brought back the film about "dry runs, or equipment testing"?

 

I guess it should have read, "This is the film about it." or something along those lines.  Would that have made you feel better?

Dear dephelis,

Thanks for your reply. I just want to know the truth. Once I believed that the people were walking on the Moon, but the more I am watching this movie and listening to you, the less probable it seems.

Blame Al Reinart for not using footage from a single mission and creating this confusion for you.

Of course, I am not blaming you. I just want to explain why all that "moon landing" story now looks so doubtful to me. Briefly, just from a few minutes of the movie, and just a few examples.

(1) As we saw above, one "crew" is goind to the shuttle bus that is purposedly delivering the "mission" to the rocket, - and a different "crew" (or is it the same one? that would be even funnier) is leaving the bus, with a very different equipment. On top of all, you are telling me that the second "crew" is not a real Apollo mission, because they do not have stickers. Then, who are they? Fake "astronauts"? Actors? Other missions? Which exactly? Which missions had three people in them before Apollo missions?

I had initially thought it was footage from the Gemini missions, but you are correct in that there were three astronauts and the Gemini program had two astronauts per launch. On that basis I would revise my assessment to it being an Apollo practice/training run. The lack of Apollo mission patch would confirm this as they were, if I remember correctly, affixed to the suits only for the actual live mission. They are neither fake or actors, as far as I can tell.

(2) You told me:
It is not one mission using different spacesuits.

I showed you the picture. Now is what you are saying:
it is blatantly obvious that he is wearing a slightly different suit to the other two in the first image

Yes, as I said in my previous post to you, you initially said "It is not one mission using different spacesuits." without referring to which images or if it was to the clip I posted in the message you were responding to. As soon as you specified the images, I realised corrected myself appropriately.

I said it was blatantly obvious because you can see from the front of the middle astronauts suit that it is the a different variant, look at the umbilical valve configuration. They are all A7LB spacesuits, however there are two versions of that spacesuit.

(3) You said:
It wasn't produced by NASA

With all my due respect to your opinion, here is what I see at the end of the movie:

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That says that it filmed on location by NASA, which it was. It was directed by Al Reinert and produced by Betsy Broyles Breirer, Al Reinert, Ben Young Mason and Fred Miller. The music was by Brian Eno. It was edited by Susan Korda. The distribution company was called Apollo Associates, they no longer seem to exist so I can't tell who it was set up by. So other than the source of the footage and maybe the distribution agent, it was not produced, directed, edited or sound-tracked by NASA.

This is not an opinion, it is a fact.

Quote from: Humble_Scientist on January 26, 2014, 09:41:23 AM

(3) You said:
It wasn't produced by NASA

With all my due respect to your opinion, here is what I see at the end of the movie:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/4qsr.jpg/

Are you saying you don't know the difference between "filmed" and "produced"?

Evidently so.

Quote from: Humble_Scientist on January 26, 2014, 09:41:23 AM

Twenty-four men made the journey.
They were the first human beings
to leave the planet Earth
for another world.

and they brought back the film about "dry runs, or equipment testing"?

 

I guess it should have read, "This is the film about it." or something along those lines.  Would that have made you feel better?

Also how can it be a single launch involving three astronauts when it refers to 24 astronauts? That makes it even clearer it is not referring to a single launch.

Humble, have you or have you not listened to the directors commentary on how the documentary was made? I really would recommend it before you continue to embarrass yourself.

Oh, he's not embarrassing himself. He's seeing the Apollo missions for what they were. Fake!

Oh, he's not embarrassing himself. He's seeing the Apollo missions for what they were. Fake!

Oh he is. He's claiming that a documentary assembled from footage taken of multiple missions over an extended period of time which have been chopped up and reassembled to give the impression of a single mission is evidence of fakery. Unfortunately, there is no claim that this documentary is a true representation of a single mission. In fact the director himself, in the director's commentary on the DVD that Humble owns, explains how the documentary was assembled. This makes the documentary entirely useless for Humble's purpose.

Oh, he's not embarrassing himself. He's seeing the Apollo missions for what they were. Fake!

I've yet to see a plausible explanation for how the footage from the actual moonwalks could possibly have been faked with technology available at the time. When you see the various techniques for faking moon gravity side-by-side with the Apollo footage, there is no comparison. The only thing that works is a parabolic flight in a vomit comet, which is neither of long enough duration or affording a large enough space to be able to fake the Apollo footage. I realise that won't convince the dedicated conspiracy theorists, but it's good enough for me, and I take a fair bit of convincing!

People like Humble_Scientist never let the facts get in the way of a good story.   

Conspiracy theorists are far to eager to see errors where there are none, and often trip themselves up in their eagerness to display their superior powers of observation and logic.  Even without knowing the back-story to these screen grabs, it's more than obvious they're all from different actual missions, dry runs, or equipment testing.

NASA believers, apologists, and shills never see anything amiss when it comes to the words of NASA. This brainwashing is more than likely caused by repeated exposure to space flight propaganda from birth onwards. The brain washing is so complete that they are incapable of grasping the notion that the whole moon landing story is science fiction, then presented as fact.

...the whole moon landing story is science fiction, then presented as fact.

I just wanted to address this specific part. Like I said in my last post, I just can't see how the landing could have been faked. I admit, it seems pretty implausible that we (humankind) would actually have made it to the moon, so when I found out that some people believed it to be faked, I found the idea appealing. I then started looking for possible ways that it could have been faked:
slow-motion footage: nope, doesn't look the same, no matter how hard you try
suspending actors from wires: still doesn't look the same
simulated moon gravity: looks exactly right, but there's not enough space in a vomit comet to create a suitable set, and the low-g flights are nowhere near long enough.

After a fair bit of investigation and thought, I concluded that the only possible explanation for the footage was that we had, in fact, made it to the moon.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."