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How do you explain...

That you can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way.

That The Bible, says Earth is round.

What about the Lunar Eclipse?

And what about finding a rough estimate of the RE radius by simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations.

If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface.

Also...

If you travel north or south a signigicant distance, you will see a
different set of stars at night. This will not happen on a flat surface.

If you climb higher, you can see further. On top of a mountain or
lighthouse, or in an airplane, you can see things that are invisible
-- below the horizon -- when you are on the ground. For example, if
you watch the Sun set, and at the very moment when the Sun is just
below the horizon you climb quickly up a hundred feet, you will see
the Sun again. It is hard to explain why you can see further when you
climb higher unless the Earth's surface curves downward away from you
wherever you stand.

How can these be explained with the FE theory?

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That you can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way.

Very few organizations have the capability to launch rockets. And even if they did, they would be hunted down and prosecuted once the rocket breached the military airspace mark of 60,000 feet.

That The Bible, says Earth is round.

Most FE proponents are atheists. You can take your theological arguments elsewhere.

What about the Lunar Eclipse?

The cause of solar and lunar eclipses is explained in Chapter 11 of the book Earth: Not a Globe by Samuel Birley Robotham.

See: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm

And what about finding a rough estimate of the RE radius by simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations.

That figure is flawed by the assumption that the sun is as far away as it is. In FE the sun is much closer than it is in RE.

If you travel north or south a signigicant distance, you will see a different set of stars at night. This will not happen on a flat surface.

The stars are bright motes suspended a few thousand miles above sea-level.

If you climb higher, you can see further..

Atoms are not transparent. Air density prevents one from seeing further than the horizon mark. Since the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent, there will be a termination mark where the trillions of atoms in the air obscure view. This termination mark is dependent on temperature, air pressure, gas constant, humidity, and pollution. For example, right now New York has a termination mark of 14 KM. In cleaner cities the termination mark might be around 30 KM.

At higher altitudes, since the atmosphere naturally gets thinner with altitude, one can see farther than normal.

The calculation of 1 Astronomical Unit = 149 598 000 kilometers aka distance from earth to the sun

http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys445/gettys/venus_ex/venus_ex.html

And the history

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/sunearthday/2004/vt_edu2004_venus_back_his.htm

Where its all from

http://www.astro.uu.nl/~strous/AA/en/antwoorden/planeten.html#v439

Let me guess. All fiction?

Oh what have we here?
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/09/10/amateur.rocket/

That's 316800 feet Tom, to save you working it out.

And the current record: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.09/updata.html

Over 200'000 feet.

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That you can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way.

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Very few organizations have the capability to launch rockets. And even if they did, they would be hunted down and prosecuted once the rocket breached the military airspace mark of 60,000 feet.

Tom, doesn't military airspace end with country borders so you could simply launch the rockets when your out far enough into the ocean?

Let me guess. All fiction?

There are people who genuinely believe in a Round Earth. Those figures may hold some significance to them. But to the Flat Earth Society it has mathematically been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the sun is 32 miles in diameter and located a few thousand miles from the sea-level of the earth.

Oh what have we here?
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/09/10/amateur.rocket/

That's 316800 feet Tom, to save you working it out.

If you had bothered to read the first paragraph of theat article you would have read this:

(CNN) -- Federal officials have given final clearance for the launch of what engineering hobbyists hope will be the highest amateur rocket flight beyond the edge of space.

Now, why would federal officials need to give clearance to amateur rocket flights?

Tom, doesn't military airspace end with country borders so you could simply launch the rockets when your out far enough into the ocean?

Nope. There is a consensus among countries pertaining to air regulations.

You're asking why a government would have to give permission before someone launches their own rocket into space? Tom do you have a carer? Can you tie your own shoelaces?

And I did read the first paragraph. I read the entire article. I suggest you get your head out of your arse hole and go and read that shitty little excuse of a book you call Earth: Not A Globe in it's entirety. You might wake the fuck up when you do.

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Let me guess. All fiction?

There are people who genuinely believe in a Round Earth. Those figures may hold some significance to them. But to the Flat Earth Society it has mathematically been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the sun is 32 miles in diameter and located a few thousand miles from the sea-level of the earth.

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Oh what have we here?
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/09/10/amateur.rocket/

That's 316800 feet Tom, to save you working it out.

If you had bothered to read the first paragraph of theat article you would have read this:

(CNN) -- Federal officials have given final clearance for the launch of what engineering hobbyists hope will be the highest amateur rocket flight beyond the edge of space.

Now, why would federal officials need to give clearance to amateur rocket flights?

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Tom, doesn't military airspace end with country borders so you could simply launch the rockets when your out far enough into the ocean?

Nope. There is a consensus among countries pertaining to air regulations.

Lol yes, There are people who believe in a RE.  If those figures hold some significance which part of it does not?  The experiment is presented there. 


We have the FAA for a reason.  Would you be upset if a rocket launch had a mid air with an airliner?  I guess not, I guess we'll just fire that rocket and hope it doesnt do any damage to anything.  No they are not trying to provide saftey for the masses, they are just putting on a show.  The true conspiracy here is the government keeps everyone too safe, thus Darwinism fails and nobody dies.  Maybe if we take the warning labels off of everything the flat earth theory will fade away for a another few hundred years untill the gov feels sorry and puts the labels back on.

I love how anything relating to the gov is a conspiracy.  And everyone who is employed by a federal organization is implementing the conspiracy.  Believe it or not the gov is a good thing.  You know anyone can run for office right?  I can understand how governments become corrupt and need to be replaced.  Thats why we have elections and limited terms, so people don't abuse power.  When they get corrupt, new and hopefully honest people replace them.  Democracy is the model for balancing power.  My how people love conspiracies.  Knowing more than others must really get you off.  Imagine the size of the ego someone has to have to claim they are smarter than 99.9% of the world population.  Because thats what this site is doing, if its not all a joke.

So tell me which politic is behind the conspiracy?  Democrat?  Republican?  Is it Bush's fault again?

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But to the Flat Earth Society it has mathematically been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the sun is 32 miles in diameter and located a few thousand miles from the sea-level of the earth.

But, Rowbotham claims a 700 mile distance...

so that it is perfectly safe to affirm that the under edge of the sun is considerably less than 700 statute miles above the earth.

EDIT: I cannot find Rowbotham's correction to the above statement. Can you direct me?
Also, I proved in another post that the Earth, using Eratosthenes measurements, assuming the world is flat, and using 180m to 200m (most sources state a 180m approximation) limits for a stadium, that both values for a stadium resulted in over 4,000 miles, values far off from the 3,000 miles that you have stated earlier.