Why Jesus & Not Others!?

Why Jesus is considered a God in Christianity? starts listing me all of your reasons, maybe one of the reasons is valid and I would say: "Yeah, he deserves to be worshiped for that"

I recommend atheists to save their time instead of wasting by reading and replying

Why Jesus is considered a God in Christianity? starts listing me all of your reasons, maybe one of the reasons is valid and I would say: "Yeah, he deserves to be worshiped for that"

I recommend atheists to save their time instead of wasting by reading and replying

Jesus is not a God. He is considered the son of God. He didn't have any superpowers such as being able to fly or X-ray vision.

You should know this. Do you worship Mohammed as a God?

Why Jesus is considered a God in Christianity? starts listing me all of your reasons, maybe one of the reasons is valid and I would say: "Yeah, he deserves to be worshiped for that"

I recommend atheists to save their time instead of wasting by reading and replying

Why is Mohammad a profit? Why he instead of other men. Why is his word higher than others?

Jesus is not a God. He is considered the son of God. He didn't have any superpowers such as being able to fly or X-ray vision.

You should know this. Do you worship Mohammed as a God?

I know he is considered the son of god, but there are many proves in Christianity that he is one with the Holy Ghost, God. There are many MANY!

I don't worship Mohammed a human who was eating and drinking and sleeping, I would be too stupid to worship someone who can be compared to others ^_^

Why is Mohammad a profit? Why he instead of other men. Why is his word higher than others?

Please create a topic for that and I will give you detailed reasons why he is messenger of Allah and no more than a prophet and messenger of god.

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Jesus is not a God. He is considered the son of God. He didn't have any superpowers such as being able to fly or X-ray vision.

You should know this. Do you worship Mohammed as a God?

I know he is considered the son of god, but there are many proves in Christianity that he is one with the Holy Ghost, God. There are many MANY!

I don't worship Mohammed a human who was eating and drinking and sleeping, I would be too stupid to worship someone who can be compared to others ^_^

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Why is Mohammad a profit? Why he instead of other men. Why is his word higher than others?

Please create a topic for that and I will give you detailed reasons why he is messenger of Allah and no more than a prophet and messenger of god.

The questions are parallels. One cannot be answered without the other. There is no more evidence of Mohammad being the messenger of god. Jesus as the son of God is God made flesh. This is no harder to understand than an earthly man claiming to speak to god. I believe this to be impossible.

JESUS IS GOD AND THE SON OF GOD.

The holy trinity: The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are all God.

SOME STUPID PEOPLE ALSO THINK LOVE IS GOD AND EARTH IS GOD....

So there's some Oedipus thing going on? Jesus married Mary so he's his own stepdad?

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Jesus is not a God. He is considered the son of God. He didn't have any superpowers such as being able to fly or X-ray vision.

You should know this. Do you worship Mohammed as a God?

I know he is considered the son of god, but there are many proves in Christianity that he is one with the Holy Ghost, God. There are many MANY!

I don't worship Mohammed a human who was eating and drinking and sleeping, I would be too stupid to worship someone who can be compared to others ^_^

So then you consider both Mohammed and Jesus on equal footing. Good. So let me ask you this next - look at this list:

1. Jesus
2. Mohammed
3. David Koresh

All three of these men claimed to be prophets and to receive messages directly from God. What criteria are you using to say that one is greater than the other, or has a more valid message?

SOME STUPID PEOPLE ALSO THINK LOVE IS GOD AND EARTH IS GOD....

In the context of the balance of your post, this made me lol.

Dam it, I wasted my time.

JESUS IS GOD AND THE SON OF GOD.

The holy trinity: The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are all God.

Yeah this is what I know from Christians he is god and at the same time son of god

So then you consider both Mohammed and Jesus on equal footing. Good. So let me ask you this next - look at this list:

1. Jesus
2. Mohammed
3. David Koresh

All three of these men claimed to be prophets and to receive messages directly from God. What criteria are you using to say that one is greater than the other, or has a more valid message?

Yup in Islam Mohammed & Jesus are both messengers of God and both respected messengers have signs and proves from god they are messengers for example Jesus being able to revive the dead, cast out devils, heal people, tell people what they are saving in their house by the permission of God. Same goes for Mohammed and both great messengers were approved by the God Himself (In Bible & Quran). However David Koresh, prophet-wannabe he claimed he is messenger but he never had the signs, the god never claimed that he is his messenger but yeah he can only be approved if you consider yourself (Atheist) and consider him your messenger ^_^

Now why Mohammed is Prophet and messenger of God I will be posting that soon if no one is planning to create a topic but not to go away from this topic.

I want to know why Christians are believing that Jesus is god!? from the Bible ^_^

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Yup in Islam Mohammed & Jesus are both messengers of God and both respected messengers have signs and proves from god they are messengers for example Jesus being able to revive the dead, cast out devils, heal people, tell people what they are saving in their house by the permission of God. Same goes for Mohammed and both great messengers were approved by the God Himself (In Bible & Quran). However David Koresh, prophet-wannabe he claimed he is messenger but he never had the signs, the god never claimed that he is his messenger but yeah he can only be approved if you consider yourself (Atheist) and consider him your messenger ^_^

Now why Mohammed is Prophet and messenger of God I will be posting that soon if no one is planning to create a topic but not to go away from this topic.

Well, David Koresh's followers claim he performed miracles and exhibited signs. Why should Mohammed's followers get to write about him and we take it as truth, and Jesus' followers get to write about him and we take it as truth, but we don't extend the same to David Koresh's followers?

Or maybe ALL the followers are lying to promote their religion.

Who was the mormon prophet?

Who was the mormon prophet?

Joseph Smith, Jr. Actually a much better example than David Koresh, thank you. He has his own followers, his own book and he exhibited all the signs of being a legitimate prophet. So why should we believe Mohammed or Jesus any more than we believe him?

Well, David Koresh's followers claim he performed miracles and exhibited signs. Why should Mohammed's followers get to write about him and we take it as truth, and Jesus' followers get to write about him and we take it as truth, but we don't extend the same to David Koresh's followers?

Or maybe ALL the followers are lying to promote their religion.

Claims is not fact, Mohammed's miracles has been approved by his companions, by christians of his time, by Jews of that time, by historians, Rome, Persians. Furthermore Mohammed was approved by his God (Allah), we are all aware that Jew, Christian, Muslim, Hindus...etc all are the same one almighty god. Furthermore both Mohammed & Jesus has been prophesied in old books such as Hindu, Old Testament and New Testament as well (This is going to be proved in another topic in details) and so in the Quran the same god (Allah) approves that Jesus, Abraham, Noah, Mohammed, Moses were his messengers and he approved their miracles. There is no single contradiction in the Quran not even one! one tiny bit!? dream or wish, live another century and add 3 more centuries to find one contradiction in the Quran and you will fail. While am sure we can find many contradictions in David books. Mohammed's message has been delivered to the world and survived till now and it's the fastest growing religion in the world. While David's message I never heard of it but only now! Don't tell me he was a messenger of another god, because that would only be equal to denying the existence of god.

So Now here we have the following approvals for Mohammed or Jesus Miracles, signs that they are messengers:

God's Approval
Their Companion's Approval
Their Enemies
Historians
Prophesies Of The Old Books
The respected messengers prophesies are coming true (Details will be given in another topic)
 
other reasons that I would give if you want

Guys please go back to the original topic, I want to know the reasons why Christians believes that Jesus is god and his son?

Guys please go back to the original topic, I want to know the reasons why Christians believes that Jesus is god and his son?

Why or how?

So Now here we have the following approvals for Mohammed or Jesus Miracles, signs that they are messengers:

God's Approval
Their Companion's Approval
Their Enemies
Historians
Prophesies Of The Old Books
The respected messengers prophesies are coming true (Details will be given in another topic)
 
other reasons that I would give if you want

Guys please go back to the original topic, I want to know the reasons why Christians believes that Jesus is god and his son?

All these hold for Joseph Smith, Jr.

1. He said he had God's approval, via the angel Moroni appearing to him.
2. Obviously his fellow Mormons approved, or the religion would never have taken off.
3. He has many enemies, same as the other prophets.
4. Mormon historians believe that he is real. Atheist historians don't believe he has any special status, but then again they don't believe Mohammed has any special status either.
5. Prophecies just name A prophet. They don't mention a timeframe or a name. Maybe they were talking about Joseph Smith, Jr. For all we know, Joseph Smith, Jr. could actually be Kalki.
6. Specific prophecies coming true have to be discussed one by one. Most are too broad. For instance, in Islam the sky turning to rosy paint is taken way out to left field to supposedly be a prophecy for rose nebulae.

All this goes to the bigger question of why Christians accept Jesus as a prophet. There is no reason. You can pick anyone you want, they are all equally valid.

All this goes to the bigger question of why Christians accept Jesus as the son of God. There is no reason. You can pick anyone you want, they are all equally valid.

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Well, David Koresh's followers claim he performed miracles and exhibited signs. Why should Mohammed's followers get to write about him and we take it as truth, and Jesus' followers get to write about him and we take it as truth, but we don't extend the same to David Koresh's followers?

Or maybe ALL the followers are lying to promote their religion.

Claims is not fact, Mohammed's miracles has been approved by his companions, by christians of his time, by Jews of that time, by historians, Rome, Persians. Furthermore Mohammed was approved by his God (Allah), we are all aware that Jew, Christian, Muslim, Hindus...etc all are the same one almighty god. Furthermore both Mohammed & Jesus has been prophesied in old books such as Hindu, Old Testament and New Testament as well (This is going to be proved in another topic in details) and so in the Quran the same god (Allah) approves that Jesus, Abraham, Noah, Mohammed, Moses were his messengers and he approved their miracles. There is no single contradiction in the Quran not even one! one tiny bit!? dream or wish, live another century and add 3 more centuries to find one contradiction in the Quran and you will fail. While am sure we can find many contradictions in David books. Mohammed's message has been delivered to the world and survived till now and it's the fastest growing religion in the world. While David's message I never heard of it but only now! Don't tell me he was a messenger of another god, because that would only be equal to denying the existence of god.

So Now here we have the following approvals for Mohammed or Jesus Miracles, signs that they are messengers:

God's Approval
Their Companion's Approval
Their Enemies
Historians
Prophesies Of The Old Books
The respected messengers prophesies are coming true (Details will be given in another topic)
 
other reasons that I would give if you want

Guys please go back to the original topic, I want to know the reasons why Christians believes that Jesus is god and his son?

Jesus came back from the dead. He brought himself back to life. Mohammad had to ask god for any miracle he may or may not have performed, Jesus raised himself from the dead, because dead people can not perform miracles.

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All these hold for Joseph Smith, Jr.

1. He said he had God's approval, via the angel Moroni appearing to him

He said, where is the written God's approval that exists till now? I wanna read what his god said, I did read what Moses, Mohammed, Jesus's god said, I wanna read what Joseph's god said.

Obviously his fellow Mormons approved, or the religion would never have taken off.

I never heard of his religion, his teachings, god wouldn't chose a prophet after Mohammed and would make his religion below Islam and there are more than 70% of the world didn't even heard his name?

He has many enemies, same as the other prophets.

Cool

Mormon historians believe that he is real.

None of Jews, Christians, Hindus, Islamic scriptures he is real

Jews, Christians, Muslims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheist

They believe one almighty God Exists ^_^

Atheist historians don't believe he has any special status, but then again they don't believe Mohammed has any special status either.

Lol they don't believe god exists ^_^

Prophecies just name A prophet. They don't mention a timeframe or a name. Maybe they were talking about Joseph Smith, Jr. For all we know, Joseph Smith, Jr. could actually be Kalki.

I love Shen-Long's quote from Bloody Roar game: "You have much to learn" there is by name, by attributes....etc

All this goes to the bigger question of why Christians accept Jesus as a prophet. There is no reason. You can pick anyone you want, they are all equally valid.

No Christians believe he is a prophet because if by any chance they believed they are no more Christians

Mohammad had to ask god for any miracle he may or may not have performed

Of course because Mohammed is no more than slave of Allah and his messenger

So now we have the following reasons why Jesus is considered son of God!?

Jesus came back from the dead. He brought himself back to life.

Any other!? is this the only reason why he is considered a god!?

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All these hold for Joseph Smith, Jr.

1. He said he had God's approval, via the angel Moroni appearing to him

He said, where is the written God's approval that exists till now? I wanna read what his god said, I did read what Moses, Mohammed, Jesus's god said, I wanna read what Joseph's god said.

It's written out very clearly in the Book of Mormon. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints will send you a free copy just for asking. Also, it's exactly the same as originally revealed since Joseph Smith, Jr. spoke English.

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Obviously his fellow Mormons approved, or the religion would never have taken off.

I never heard of his religion, his teachings, god wouldn't chose a prophet after Mohammed and would make his religion below Islam and there are more than 70% of the world didn't even heard his name?

It's common in the U.S. 70% of the world haven't heard of Stephen Hawking, that doesn't mean that Stephen Hawking is wrong. Also, most of the world had never heard of Mohammed right after his life and death - it's just that Joseph Smith, Jr. hasn't had as long to get established.

Not an argument you want to pursue. Both IQ and educational level correlate highly to atheism. The smarter an individual the more likely they are to be an atheist.

None of Jews, Christians, Hindus, Islamic scriptures he is real

Jews, Christians, Muslims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheist

They believe one almighty God Exists ^_^

The Hindus don't believe in one almighty God. It is a pantheistic religion, and different Gods can act independently.

It's written out very clearly in the Book of Mormon. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints will send you a free copy just for asking. Also, it's exactly the same as originally revealed since Joseph Smith, Jr. spoke English.

Give me a copy please

It's common in the U.S. 70% of the world haven't heard of Stephen Hawking, that doesn't mean that Stephen Hawking is wrong. Also, most of the world had never heard of Mohammed right after his life and death - it's just that Joseph Smith, Jr. hasn't had as long to get established.

Not an argument you want to pursue. Both IQ and educational level correlate highly to atheism. The smarter an individual the more likely they are to be an atheist.

Why you think Stephen Hawking is right

The Hindus don't believe in one almighty God. It is a pantheistic religion, and different Gods can act independently.

This proves you still have much to learn about Hinduism n_n however I am not too bad to leave you like that, I will give you a hint: ask learned Hindu about "Ekam evadvitiyam" what it means? ^_^ what I wrote is in the Upanishads! the Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus. If we want to learn we must read ourselves not only hear from x or y n_n so please read Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1

^_^

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It's written out very clearly in the Book of Mormon. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints will send you a free copy just for asking. Also, it's exactly the same as originally revealed since Joseph Smith, Jr. spoke English.

Give me a copy please

I just use an online copy. Go to:

http://scriptures.lds.org/bm/contents

and read away.

This proves you still have much to learn about Hinduism n_n however I am not too bad to leave you like that, I will give you a hint: ask learned Hindu about "Ekam evadvitiyam" what it means? ^_^ what I wrote is in the Upanishads! the Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus. If we want to learn we must read ourselves not only hear from x or y n_n so please read Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1

Well, let's just say that I'm a lot closer to Hinduism than the average guy on the street. You're completely misunderstanding Chandogya. There was only one in the beginning. It's like the trunk of a tree giving rise to branches. The branches can still move independently. The one that is being described would not qualify as sentient by most definitions. It is more like the fabric of the universe, not a thinking calculating individual.

Why Jesus is considered a God in Christianity? starts listing me all of your reasons, maybe one of the reasons is valid and I would say: "Yeah, he deserves to be worshiped for that"

I speak with a humble tongue and a kind heart to impart peace and love (Truth).

1 John.5:[20] He is the true God and eternal life.

Unfortunately Christianity is a false religion because of this very statement, GOD is alone and therefore anyone claiming to be GOD or [worse] putting themselves before GOD (acting as an obstacle) is truly of the Devil.

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me." (John 14:6)

Although AbdulAziz Jesus did not lie when he said he is a son of GOD, he is a son (angel) but a fallen one for preaching the verses above like many of his brothers who too are sons, Satan, Azazel (Judaism) etc. So how does this help Islam? It doesn't, it means that religion too is false, GOD would never allow a fallen angel to hold a sacred status in another religion, and besides, (angel) whose root meaning is "messenger" would make Mohamed an angel also.

Ask yourself this brother; why would GOD wait so many years to send the true religion 600 A.D? Ask yourself this; why would the most intelligent Being in the Universe save Noah and keep Him in darkness by not giving Him the Holy Word? The Devil is very deceptive, many have been fooled by him even today and walk that wide path that leads to the Abyss, this is why there are so many followers in false religions, but GOD forgives, this is why these devils have to keep you in that frame of mind continuously (false religions) because once you break thru and see the lie, at that moment if you want to make it right GOD is right there with you (Truth).

So, which one is the truth then?

Well, let's just say that I'm a lot closer to Hinduism than the average guy on the street. You're completely misunderstanding Chandogya. There was only one in the beginning. It's like the trunk of a tree giving rise to branches. The branches can still move independently. The one that is being described would not qualify as sentient by most definitions. It is more like the fabric of the universe, not a thinking calculating individual.

If you have Upanishad please read 4:19 and 6:9 and there are many other verses as well. Also check Yajurveda 40:9 to know what god saying about worshiping other gods.

I speak with a humble tongue and a kind heart to impart peace and love (Truth).

1 John.5:[20] He is the true God and eternal life.

Unfortunately Christianity is a false religion because of this very statement, GOD is alone and therefore anyone claiming to be GOD or [worse] putting themselves before GOD (acting as an obstacle) is truly of the Devil.

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me." (John 14:6)

Although AbdulAziz Jesus did not lie when he said he is a son of GOD, he is a son (angel) but a fallen one for preaching the verses above like many of his brothers who too are sons, Satan, Azazel (Judaism) etc. So how does this help Islam? It doesn't, it means that religion too is false, GOD would never allow a fallen angel to hold a sacred status in another religion, and besides, (angel) whose root meaning is "messenger" would make Mohamed an angel also.

Ask yourself this brother; why would GOD wait so many years to send the true religion 600 A.D? Ask yourself this; why would the most intelligent Being in the Universe save Noah and keep Him in darkness by not giving Him the Holy Word? The Devil is very deceptive, many have been fooled by him even today and walk that wide path that leads to the Abyss, this is why there are so many followers in false religions, but GOD forgives, this is why these devils have to keep you in that frame of mind continuously (false religions) because once you break thru and see the lie, at that moment if you want to make it right GOD is right there with you (Truth).

Man, your really great I am glad there are people who are ready to discuss

Jesus never lied in anything but some humans added or removed some words so he is contradicting himself. Jesus didn't lie when he was saying son of God but the son of god at his time was used the people, in the Bible you will realize many verses saying we are all his sons, should we all be considered gods? Jesus peace be upon him never claimed divinity, those who did read the people can easily tell that we all remember when he said: "My Father is greater than I or My Father is greater than all and here is exactly matching what the Islam says about him: "I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…." and "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." and we all believe in Islam that Jesus did these stuffs, and this is all mentioned in the Bible which supposed to be said by Jesus himself.

Son doesn't mean Angel, but at their time the word son was used like the one who is teaching and educating me, the one who is taking care of me...etc we all know the language of Jesus is closest to Arabic (My language) and we in Arabic use such terms like the "Rab El Bit" rab = god, el bite = house. It's like he is in charge of the house. Thats why they were using the word son of god.

Both Mohammed and Jesus were humans and messengers of the same god (Allah) and the prove is that Jesus himself in the Bible said: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent." he is proving that he has been sent and there are many verses that proves his mission was as the mission of Mohammed.

Now why he waited all these years to sent Mohammed after Jesus or sending Jesus after Moses that's I can't know because we have limited thinking and mind, we don't know what is God's plan but I can tell you that Jesus was sent to his people and after his death his companions were still on the right religion that is worshiping one god alone but then later on humans changed this, and there was so many other mistakes in the world so god sent Mohammed as the last messenger and the last warning to Humanity.

Now why there are many followers for a false religion, because people deny the truth for many reasons; They don't know about the true religion, their parents are forcing them, they are used to what they've been doing and can't change because of the social life, they are scared, they might have hatred against those new guys and many many other reasons.

I just want to collect all the reasons why Christians believes that Jesus is god so I can answer each point. Because if someone did read the Bible well from the first page till last he will realize that he is not the god.

Why God at all?

Why religion? If you had been brought up in a spiritual vacuum do you think you would believe in God? Religion is a artifact of mankind's fear of death and desire for validation.

Good for you if you need/want God. The rest of us find the things we need from other people.

The rest of us find the things we need from other people.

Or ourselves.

But masturbation is a sin!

Yes but autoerotic asphyxiation is not.