Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?

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kainedamo

Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« on: August 15, 2008, 02:32:39 PM »
In a very similar way to creationists, I find that FE's put an unfair burden of proof on the other side while offering very few pieces of evidence themselves.

For example, this ice wall.  Something that should be incredibly easy to prove the existence of simply by going there.

I read the FAQ, and the reason stated there is that the government conspiracy has people that stop people from getting to the ice wall.

How very, very convenient.

Are there eye witnesses that have seen these government agents defending the ice wall?  Photographs of them, perhaps?  Why has no aircraft ever reported seeing the ice wall?  I guess I can answer that one myself - perhaps the government conspiracy has aircraft to direct people away.  Okay.

So why has nobody in the history of flight ever reported such a thing?  If there is a secret airfield, why no photos of it?

Stop making excuses.  Your position relies on layers upon layers of convenient excuses.  Why don't YOU take a trip and visit the ice wall?  Why don't a bunch of you get together and just go?  It's not that hard.  People make foreign trips all the time, adventuring off around Asia or Europe.  Just go, take some cameras, and see how far you get.  No doubt you'll make excuse after excuse about why you can't go.  Which begs the question, why do you so readily believe something that has no proof?  Why are you so utterly unwilling to even attempt to prove the existence of the ice wall?

I read another thread, where another guy like me (a guy that believes the world is round) asked you guys why don't you save up some money and take Branson's flight to space (or the outer atmosphere to be a bit more precise).  What did you guys do?  You made excuses.  Too expensive.  Or, "I don't want to die".  This guy had to really, really drag it out of you, it seems like you have no interest whatsoever in proving definitively that the earth is flat.  I have to say, I have very little respect for you guys.

Go ahead, make your excuses.

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 02:46:08 PM »
You're not going to get any intelligent answers from FE supporters with this question.  They already know that a low-cost trip to the supposed "ice wall" will invalidate their theory in an instant.
"There's coffee in that nebula!" - Capt. Katherine Janeway.   Star Trek fan since I was 2 years old and proud of it! :).

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2008, 02:51:17 PM »
you'll note how none of the 'big guns' ever reply to the simple posts. The posts that ask "why" don't you just go and do it etc.. You know the ones whose sigs say they are flat earth master (sic) etc..
I take nothing away from neeman and robotsteve, but come on big men, show us your balls!

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 05:44:00 PM »
I'm waaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2008, 05:50:06 PM »
When the world was just forming and it was a hot mass of everything, we then get water but no ice yet. What was stopping the water from flowing out into space ???

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2008, 05:51:25 PM »
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For example, this ice wall.  Something that should be incredibly easy to prove the existence of simply by going there.

Plenty of people have been to Antarctica.

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 05:56:10 PM »
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For example, this ice wall.  Something that should be incredibly easy to prove the existence of simply by going there.

Plenty of people have been to Antarctica.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22228.0 

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 06:08:37 PM »
Still waiting.  This site is a total joke.

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TheEngineer

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2008, 06:10:14 PM »
Why don't you gather up all your RE'er buddies and take up a collection.  Then you can send me the money and I will go.


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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 06:11:58 PM »
Why don't you gather up all your RE'er buddies and take up a collection.  Then you can send me the money and I will go.

You're exactly the level of RE'er my letter is aimed at. Do you think we could have a chat about getting this off the ground? (excuse the pun)

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 06:13:23 PM »
Why don't you gather up all your RE'er buddies and take up a collection.  Then you can send me the money and I will go.

You expect me to organize your trip for you?  It's fascinating to me how uneager you guys seem to be about proving your theories.

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TheEngineer

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 06:14:55 PM »
You expect me to organize your trip for you? 
No, I want you to send me the money to go.  I will arrange my trip myself.


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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 06:21:25 PM »
Raise your own money.

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TheEngineer

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 06:22:01 PM »
Why?  I already know what I will find there.


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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 06:23:59 PM »
Scary, scary ice wall guards!  OH NO!

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2008, 06:24:55 PM »
Why?  I already know what I will find there.

Wow, what a cop out.

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2008, 06:56:54 PM »
Not even half the questions in my original post have been answered.

Waiting for a half decent answer.

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2008, 07:07:49 PM »
I'd get a sandwich...

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TheEngineer

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2008, 08:12:28 PM »
Wow, what a cop out.
If you guys want me to go so bad, you better get the bake sales and car washes going...


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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2008, 04:06:57 AM »
Wow, what a cop out.
If you guys want me to go so bad, you better get the bake sales and car washes going...

It's not that I want you to go really badly.  It's that it seems you have absolutely no desire to go.  NO ONE on this board seems to have any desire to actually take any measures to definitively proof their theories when it is relatively simple to do so.

Therefore, you're all fake and I'll be deleting my account.  Thanks for wasting my time, assholes.

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2008, 04:08:39 AM »
It's not that I want you to go really badly.  It's that it seems you have absolutely no desire to go.  NO ONE on this board seems to have any desire to actually take any measures to definitively proof their theories when it is relatively simple to do so.

Therefore, you're all fake and I'll be deleting my account.  Thanks for wasting my time, assholes.

Please don't go. :'(
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2008, 04:12:49 AM »
Many of my questions in my original post remain unanswered.

What would be the point in staying if flat earthers can't even debate their position?

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Parsifal

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Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2008, 04:13:59 AM »
Many of my questions in my original post remain unanswered.

What would be the point in staying if flat earthers can't even debate their position?

Good point. Go away.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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kainedamo

Re: Convenient excuses - why don't you visit the ice wall?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2008, 04:24:22 AM »
Is that all you can say?

I mean, I'm WAITING for someone to prove me wrong, and no one seems willing or able.