flat earth or flat planets

Hi, im new to this site and was just thinking if you think ALL the planets are round or just the earth?

cheers Dale

We think the earth is flat.

so why would the earth be flat and not all the other planets such as Mars?

is the moon there? is that flat? why is there a horizon?

sorry there are so many questions is there a page with lots of Q+A's on?

laters Dale

Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

It says nothing about the other planets. But I assume the FE'ers think that they are all disks that are conveniently pointed towards Earth so that we won't see the edges.

I haven't actually heard anyone say it outright, but a whole lot about FE theory seems to imply geocentricity - a completely ridiculously concept regardless of the shape of the Earth.

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Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.

It says nothing about the other planets. But I assume the FE'ers think that they are all disks that are conveniently pointed towards Earth so that we won't see the edges.

I haven't actually heard anyone say it outright, but a whole lot about FE theory seems to imply geocentricity - a completely ridiculously concept regardless of the shape of the Earth.

Most FE'ers, like myself believe them to be spherical.

so if all the other planets are not flat like the earth, what makes the earth so special and different from all the others?

just so everyone knows i don't believe in a flat earth

laters Dale

Ask God.

Or if you don't believe in God, continue to be hopelessly unsatisfied.

ah ok so you think god gave us a flat planet.  this could make sence. Could be a sign he gave to us? like oh our planet is flat and all the others are round.

but don't you prove FE with science ive always assumed science and religion are polls apart.

but there is still one thing that confuses me, sunsets?

laters Dale

What about sunsets?

why would it set if the earth is flat.

so is everything about globes and things just lies to cover up the fact it ois flat.whats the point

why not go to this ice wall, if not by seat cos of the helicopters but in a sub or somthing.

i think all this is interesting but it all seams a little but silly.

laters Dale
 

I agree, it may seem silly. This, I assure you, is only due to what you've, up to now, considered normalcy. All of your questions are answered in various parts of these forums. For deep research, take a look at Earth: Not a Globe. But start with the search.

I am curious about one thing... What makes our world so special. If you claim that others are round, then this makes no sence. Earth is a planet just like the others, correct?

I am curious about one thing... What makes our world so special. If you claim that others are round, then this makes no sence. Earth is a planet just like the others, correct?

This is a philosophical question. I am religious and believe the earth has a special purpose, and it is reasonable that the earth is special. But you wont find that answer here.

Alright, but what special purpose do you believe it is? And please don't use religion or the lord as a scapegoat.

It is a religious question. So I don't know how to answer that without being religous.

True, but you can at least give an opinion. We are all entitled to one after all.

To the OP, the narcberry guy is probably just trolling. He's not a real Flat Earther as far as I can tell.


In answer to your question, I'd say the community is split on the issue of the planets. There are many Flat Earthers who assert round planets and flat earth, and many (myself included) who believe all planets to be flat.

As a Flat Earther, and as you brought up, I don't see why the Earth would be flat while all the other planets were round.

I subscribe to a theory of universal acceleration, in which the flat planets (all of them) ride on a universal accelerator of dark matter, creating the illusion of gravity.

Most FE'ers, like myself believe them to be spherical.

You guys are holding the theories of flat earth believers, this includes Einstein & Newton. but, your paranoia lead you somewhere very dark, lonely, and SO wrong. Explain how you would detect Earth to be flat when you know as a fact other planets in the universe are spherical? And no, Rowbotham's experiments doesn't count, if so, you may also read the RE experiments to prove it's round. There's no way the Earth is flat.

Why don't the hundreds of experiments in Earth Not a Globe and from the Flat Earth Literature not count as experimental proof for a Flat Earth? Just because your mind is so close minded to consider an alternative to what you were taught as a child?

I've never seen any one RE experiment proving the earth as round. There are multitudes that prove it as flat. If any Round Earth experiments exist please link to them here in this thread.

Why don't the hundreds of experiments in Earth Not a Globe and the Flat Earth Literature not count as experimental proof for a Flat Earth? Just because your mind is so close minded to consider an alternative to what you were taught as a child?

I've never seen any one RE experiment proving the earth as round. There are multitudes that prove it as flat. If any RE experiments exist please link to them here in this thread

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We've talked about many issues in other threads, if you bothered to look it up. It contains things like:

1. Tides
2. The Horizon
3. The theory of sunrise&sunset
4. Lunar eclipse
5. GPS uses satellites
..and alot more. Also, we've provided evidence such as:

-Images that are relevant to one another, even though you said it wasn't, and you could see a big mistake between them (Although you have no clue what's really going on).
-Videos
-News updates on space&time
..and many more, IF you bothered to look it up.

I believe in Einstein more than Rowbotham, so that's another advantage for our side.

Are you crazy? Robo-Tham is an advanced conspiracy robot from the future, you have GOT to believe him. Einstein was just some Physicsy guy no-one cares about.

All hail Robo-Tham!

I swear to god, Tom. You had better stop quoting Earth: Not a Globe. The author doesn't even understand the simple concept of perspective (an argument which he uses over and over again in that book). If you want anyone to take you seriously, then stop pretending like the proofs in that stupid book are actually solid.

Oh, and please don't ignore me like you always do.

Just look!!!

How could someone who thinks that the bottom diagram is true have any say in logical proofs? The author is incapable of understanding the most intuitive of concepts, and if not then is clearly willing to overlook reality in order to prove himself right.

I've never seen any one RE experiment proving the earth as round. There are multitudes that prove it as flat.

Stop being a hypocrite and you might find that arguing your point is a lot harder. Every single proof that the Earth is round you deny because you have never seen it for yourself. Yet every single proof that the Earth is flat you are more than willing to take on faith.

I am not going to continue debating with you if you refuse to amend your position and actually take the arguments of others into account like the sane people in this forum do.

You guys are holding the theories of flat earth believers, this includes Einstein & Newton. but, your paranoia lead you somewhere very dark, lonely, and SO wrong. Explain how you would detect Earth to be flat when you know as a fact other planets in the universe are spherical? And no, Rowbotham's experiments doesn't count, if so, you may also read the RE experiments to prove it's round. There's no way the Earth is flat.

The guy you quoted doesn't represent the views of serious Flat Earthers. There are plenty of us (actual FE'ers) who subscribe to the idea that all planets are flat.

You can see mars rotating through a relatively cheap (i.e. I own one) telescope...well actually you can't see it rotate in real time, but if you look at it night after night it is clearly turning around. How can it be flat if this is the case. How can those moons look so much like they are orbiting it, and how does the sun's light catch it and show up it's spherical nature if it is actually a disk? Fair enough you can say space photos of earth are a hoax, but there are loads of Earth photos of space... we can look up at it any time we like and see the spheres in our solar system...

You can see mars rotating through a relatively cheap (i.e. I own one) telescope...well actually you can't see it rotate in real time, but if you look at it night after night it is clearly turning around. How can it be flat if this is the case. How can those moons look so much like they are orbiting it, and how does the sun's light catch it and show up it's spherical nature if it is actually a disk? Fair enough you can say space photos of earth are a hoax, but there are loads of Earth photos of space... we can look up at it any time we like and see the spheres in our solar system...

I've long offered the theory that flat bodies in contact with the Universal Accelerator emit a three-dimensional "afterburn" of light, and that this, not the planets themselves, is what we see in the night sky. After all, when we consider the FE model of the sun, there is no way its light would reflect off the planets as it does in RE theory, so without such a mechanism as afterburn we would not see them at all.

Regarding the apparent rotation of the planets, I would venture that as their positions shift in relation to the Earth (and vice versa) on the natural undulation of the UA, the light emitted is of a different quality due either to differences in the chemical compositions of the exposed areas, or different levels of pressure given by said areas. Of course, this is at present pure hypothesis, but it provides at least a viable possible line of enquiry and provisional explanation (forgive me for grossly departing from zetetic method here).

That's a bit of a tenuous argument isn't it? Considering there is a reasonable alternative....where they really are spheres...

That's a bit of a tenuous argument isn't it? Considering there is a reasonable alternative....where they really are spheres...

But the alternative isn't reasonable. As was already pointed out, what possible coherent model of the universe could render a Flat Earth with round planets?

None.....but maybe the Earth could be a sphere too?

Edit: Just reminded me of (another) thing Richard Feynman said:
"Nature uses only the longest threads to weave her patterns, so each small piece of her fabric reveals the organization of the entire tapestry."

Not that this is evidence for anything, but it leads me to accept either a fully round round earth with round planets, or your model with flat everything. It's just a statement by one man, but I like it, it agrees with how I think of things 

Not that this is evidence for anything, but it leads me to accept either a fully round round earth with round planets, or your model with flat everything. It's just a statement by one man, but I like it, it agrees with how I think of things 

A sentiment I agree with. There's no reason why a pointless exception would be made in one case which was similar to many others as far as nature is concerned.