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akira

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FE Debunked
« on: April 10, 2007, 08:38:06 PM »
Have a nice watch:

LINK:

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/the_mission/flyby_movie.html


It's an Earth Departure Movie

The Mercury-bound MESSENGER spacecraft captured several stunning images of Earth during a gravity assist swingby of its home planet on Aug. 2, 2005. Several hundred images, taken with the wide-angle camera in MESSENGER's Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS), were sequenced into a movie documenting the view from MESSENGER as it departed Earth.
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Midnight

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 08:38:42 PM »
Interesting. You know, however, what the official line will be.  :-*
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Quote from: Raist on September 06, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.
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akira

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 08:40:32 PM »
Quote from: midnight on April 10, 2007, 08:38:42 PM
Interesting. You know, however, what the official line will be.  :-*

Yes, I think we've already expected that to come up. Atleast it's not an image, this way they'll think harder than saying "That's photoshopped".
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Angelflesh

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2007, 08:46:42 PM »
They'll just say it's animated.
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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2007, 08:49:36 PM »
Wow, whoever made that 3D model did a terrible job.

Watch the movie file and notice the over-glossy reflectivity of the earth:



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sokarul

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2007, 08:51:31 PM »
Looks like the reflection of the sun to me. 
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Midnight

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2007, 08:51:58 PM »
Dear Tommy is trying so very hard now.  :-*
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Quote from: Raist on September 06, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 08:56:39 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on April 10, 2007, 08:51:31 PM
Looks like the reflection of the sun to me. 

I've never seen that sort of reflective glare in other Round Earth pictures.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2007, 10:43:00 PM by Tom Bishop »
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akira

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 08:58:26 PM »
They would be very aware if what you're saying is actually correct. What you saw was how it was naturally.
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Midnight

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 08:58:32 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 08:56:39 PM
1.) I've never seen that sort of reflective glare in

Oh, well that puts us all out to pasture then, Tom.
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Quote from: Raist on September 06, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
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sokarul

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2007, 09:00:25 PM »
1.  The very first pic shows the same thing.  Look at it again.  Its the only pic from the same spot. 
2.  Just holding my mt dew can at a 90 degree angle to my 20" monitor showed the same reflection as seen in the movie. 

Added: the pic under the first pic and the last pic also show the reflection. 
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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2007, 09:08:39 PM »
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Added: the pic under the first pic and the last pic also show the reflection.

If the Earth really is as shiny as a Mountain Dew can then the glare should be visible in all Round Earth day pictures, not just some.

Notice how the shine on a Mountain Dew Can is always apparent no matter how much you turn it.
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Midnight

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2007, 09:09:13 PM »
Which means what?
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Quote from: Raist on September 06, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2007, 09:12:06 PM »
Quote from: midnight on April 10, 2007, 09:09:13 PM
Which means what?

Which means there should be a shine in this picture.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2007, 09:14:41 PM by Tom Bishop »
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Midnight

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2007, 09:14:41 PM »
Because?
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Quote from: Raist on September 06, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2007, 09:15:10 PM »
Because the earth is apparently as shiny as a Mountain Dew can.
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Angelflesh

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2007, 09:34:28 PM »
Come on Tom, you photoshopped that pic to remove the reflection. Tisk tisk.  :P
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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2007, 09:57:33 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 08:56:39 PM
Quote from: sokarul on April 10, 2007, 08:51:31 PM
Looks like the reflection of the sun to me. 

1.) I've never seen that sort of reflective glare in other Round Earth pictures.


That's a bold-faced lie.  I suspect you deleted the post (big surprise), because I can't find it now, but I clearly remember you RECENTLY making the same observation about another Round Earth picture. 
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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2007, 10:04:07 PM »
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That's a bold-faced lie.  I suspect you deleted the post (big surprise), because I can't find it now, but I clearly remember you RECENTLY making the same observation about another Round Earth picture.

I admit, I am able to find a shine in some pictures.

But in other pictures, the shine is surprisingly absent.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2007, 10:06:01 PM by Tom Bishop »
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akira

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2007, 10:33:33 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 10:04:07 PM
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That's a bold-faced lie.  I suspect you deleted the post (big surprise), because I can't find it now, but I clearly remember you RECENTLY making the same observation about another Round Earth picture.

I admit, I am able to find a shine in some pictures.

But in other pictures, the shine is surprisingly absent.

This means you need a new theory to fit with the facts.
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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2007, 10:35:51 PM »
The shine on the Earth should either be all in all pictures or no pictures. Think about it for a bit while you spin a polished billiard ball.

You're the one who needs to come up with an explanation for this discrepancy.
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akira

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2007, 10:39:41 PM »
There's this thing called "Time". There's a clue for you.
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Tom Bishop

Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2007, 10:41:49 PM »
It doesn't matter what time it is on the Earth, if the camera shot is showing the day side of the earth then there should be a shine as a sheer result of light mechanics.

Rotate a polished billiard ball in your hand. There's a clue for you.
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akira

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2007, 10:51:24 PM »
This video shows how the Earth is relevant to some images you've seen, and what we've seen. If there are a number of images that are different, this is either it's natural to be like that since we don't know what's really out there ourselves, or, idiots bothered to create photographs of a fake Earth. Also like I said before, if what you were saying was correct in any way, they would've been very aware of it. There's really no reason why they differentiated it. Think about it.
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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2007, 10:57:08 PM »
Tom, just theoretically, what conspiracy-related reason do you think there'd be for there being a shine in some pictures but not in others?
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omgcitrus

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2007, 11:14:42 PM »
Thanks for posting, akira, it was very cool to see.

Tom: Your arguments are very weak. Saying it was photoshopped is just stupid. The sun was reflecting on all photos. The fact you can see it on only some photos (not talking about the video anymore) just means that those photos were taken from either a different angle, or the fact that the earth actually does rotate around the sun (OMG! Really? But the earth is flat!! It can't rotate. The sun must rotate AROUND THE EARTH!!!  :-\) making the reflection's position change, and maybe not even be there at the right time of day. It's all about rotations, Tom.
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omgcitrus

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2007, 11:21:29 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 10:41:49 PM
It doesn't matter what time it is on the Earth, if the camera shot is showing the day side of the earth then there should be a shine as a sheer result of light mechanics.

Rotate a polished billiard ball in your hand. There's a clue for you.
That's a good argument. The only problem with it is that the earth changes and rotates. Clouds move, the earth rotates around the sun, the earth turns around, and pictures are taken from different positions in space. Astronauts aren't in the same spot every time they go up or take pictures. It's that simple.

The thing you say about how if a picture is taken of the earth's sunny side there should be a shine somewhere goes back to my argument about how clouds do move. The reflection had to do with earth's gases, meaning its clouds that the sun reflected off of. Clouds do move/change/whatever. It's called weather.

Sorry if my wording is inaccurate.
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akira

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2007, 11:47:38 PM »
I gave him a clue on "Time". He still doesn't understand I guess.
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omgcitrus

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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2007, 11:55:11 PM »
Quote from: akira on April 10, 2007, 11:47:38 PM
I gave him a clue on "Time". He still doesn't understand I guess.
I get what he means, saying that any picture of the sunny side of earth or whatever should have a reflection, but I'm saying the reflection has requirements in order to happen. There won't automatically just be a reflection every time the sun shines.

Little Tommy boy over there should take his "shined" up billiard/genital balls and "experiment" with different "barriers" around the/his ball/s and see if the "reflection" is the same every time.
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Re: FE Debunked
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2007, 12:10:13 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 10:35:51 PM
The shine on the Earth should either be all in all pictures or no pictures. Think about it for a bit while you spin a polished billiard ball.

You're the one who needs to come up with an explanation for this discrepancy.
What you're not thinking about Tom is the light source, which in this case would be the sun. Moving the billiard ball in a circle would give you a consistent shadow because the light source is not moving. If you walk backwards, so your billiard ball is between yourself and the light source, you will find (shock horror!) that there will no longer be the same reflective shine.   

There's a good article right here on how reflective the Earth actually is.
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