So I am a little confused

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2007, 12:55:46 AM »
That's good to know you said that.
I don't remember anyone saying otherwise.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2007, 01:04:11 AM »
That's good to know you said that.
I don't remember anyone saying otherwise.

Maybe you should view more posts from people in this forum. I won't do that for you.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2007, 01:11:05 AM »
You can't provide evidence.  Shocking.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2007, 01:24:00 AM »
You can't provide evidence.  Shocking.

After all, you are the Global Moderator. You shouldn't ask me for logs. I'm sure you can find it yourself.

What's shocking is, you cannot provide evidence that the government and NASA is behind this whole conspiracy (as to your assumptions), nor can you provide just one scientific evidence that the Earth is Flat which contradicts with the RE Model. Just one evidence that contradicts with our model and is possibly correct.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2007, 10:11:56 AM »
And he won't, either.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2007, 10:50:47 AM »
You can't provide evidence.  Shocking.

After all, you are the Global Moderator. You shouldn't ask me for logs. I'm sure you can find it yourself.

Why would I look for something that I know doesn't exist? 


No FE'er  has denied that gravitation exists.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2007, 10:59:50 AM »
http://www.fourmilab.ch/gravitation/foobar/

narcberry won't tell me why this experiment's faulty, so I really would like to see what you think of it, TheEngineer.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2007, 11:08:08 AM »
Narcberry is, um, special.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2007, 11:11:31 AM »
So would you do me a huuuuge favor and look that over?  If you are who you say you are, which I have no reason to doubt yet, then you should have a far larger understanding of physics than myself and your input would be most good. ^_^
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2007, 11:13:07 AM »
You can't provide evidence.  Shocking.
Nether can you about this FE shit. the ice wall have you ever seen it? if the pictrues that NASA photoshopped in the past are fake how do you know the Earth is flat? why cant it be a square? or or why can't it be a triangle? WTF is wrong with you people you ask for evidence yet you have none to back up your FE shit? its all theories or you pulled it out your asses. -.-"

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2007, 12:49:58 PM »
LOLercoasters
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2007, 06:02:59 PM »
A bit special or retarded?
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2007, 06:15:12 PM »
If nasa used all of this money to actually put it into photoshopping the earth, why have astronauts died?

Do you think they just kill them off to make this ridiculous theory more plausible? No, I don't think so. If the pictures of earth are inaccurate, then are world maps inaccurate as well? Are the shapes of the continents, ect. not the same?

How on this (not)flat earth would we ever know???? D:

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2007, 06:16:34 PM »
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If nasa used all of this money to actually put it into photoshopping the earth, why have astronauts died?

Amusingly enough, the more astronauts who die, the more billions NASA can justify spending on researching "safety mechanisms" for future Shuttle missions.

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2007, 06:27:41 PM »
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If nasa used all of this money to actually put it into photoshopping the earth, why have astronauts died?

Amusingly enough, the more astronauts who die, the more billions NASA can justify spending on researching "safety mechanisms" for future Shuttle missions.

Great, so they were murdered privately and in public it was otherwise? More crazy accusations from Tom towards NASA.
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into_the_airwaves

Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2007, 06:28:33 PM »
Oh and Akira, here is something that I happened to stumble upon, ironically enough, from the guy who said that no one ever said gravity didn't exist (Did that make any sense)

Copied from narc's thread "Which Way is Up"

Quote from:  "duuuuh"
It's called "gravity" (I know, I know, gravity doesn't exist on FE, but it does on RE).

Quote from:  "the global mod guy posting in this thread"
It sure doesn't.


And Tom:

You missed my point. DO. YOU. REALLY. THINK. THEY. WOULD. KILL. OFF. PEOPLE. FOR. MEANS. OF. MAKING. THE. CONSPIRACY. MORE. PLAUSIBLE?

No, they wouldn't. WHY? Because someone would stop them. Oh wait, the government won't because they want these deaths for the conspiracy, right? No. Wrong. WHY? Because your little theory would spread into law, and every aspect of law. Which spreads into all of those little courts dotted about the country, and law school, and the list goes on. Basically, since this conspiracy HAD to have been going on since the beginning of time or supposedly when the greeks found out, SOMEONE out of the billions of people who have lived and died between now and 300 BC, would have spilled this secret. WHY? Because that is how human nature works.

Your theory is screwed, basically. In more ways than just 1,000.

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2007, 06:31:25 PM »
Well said. But he knows that, and is merely toying with you. This forum is his entertainment. He doesn't believe in his words to us all, anymore than we do. It's all a game.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2007, 07:32:44 PM »
Oh and Akira, here is something that I happened to stumble upon, ironically enough, from the guy who said that no one ever said gravity didn't exist (Did that make any sense)

Copied from narc's thread "Which Way is Up"

Quote from:  "duuuuh"
It's called "gravity" (I know, I know, gravity doesn't exist on FE, but it does on RE).

Quote from:  "the global mod guy posting in this thread"
It sure doesn't.

You have the quote wrong.  I said no one ever said gravitation didn't exist.  I, along with Einstein and just about every physicist in the world, hold that gravity as a force does not exist.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2007, 12:53:13 AM »
http://www.fourmilab.ch/gravitation/foobar/

narcberry won't tell me why this experiment's faulty, so I really would like to see what you think of it, TheEngineer.
There seems to me, to be some unexplainable things going on in the experiments.  The second video shows a large return of the balance after it contacts the weights.  Just from looking at the video and using an estimate of the angle and time using the stamp on the video, I've made a liberal estimate of the velocity when it makes contact with the weights.  This will result in a certain kinetic energy at the moment of impact.  Assuming a perfectly elastic collision (again, very liberal), the total energy must be conserved, so that the potential energy gained by the masses must equal the kinetic energy.  Using a simple equation, I've found the gravitational attraction of the weights and masses.  Using the kinetic energy as the maximum potential energy and solving for the distance that the mass can travel, I've found the rebound angle to be 0.126 degrees, not the nearly 30 that is shown in the video.  However, there is also a water brake which should damp this small movement, making the video highly suspect.

 Now, as I have said, I've made assumptions and simplifications (as it's late, I'm tired and I'm not getting paid for this), and those have been on the larger side of things.

Perhaps I will do an in depth analysis of this if I get bored.

BTW, it is stated on Wiki:
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Bending Spacetime in the Basement (do-it-yourself Cavendish apparatus - appears to be seriously flawed[1])


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2007, 12:57:48 AM »
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I said no one ever said gravitation didn't exist.  I, along with Einstein and just about every physicist in the world, hold that gravity as a force does not exist.

So along with Einstein, you should have not questioned whether the earth is round or not. You are, indeed, using his theories into the FE model.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2007, 01:08:15 AM »
Why not?  You question him all the time when you say gravity exists.  Yet, you believe in the RE.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2007, 01:13:51 AM »
Am I you? that looks at Einstein as an idol? Nope. If Einstein didn't think the earth would be a spherical shape, he would've said otherwise with legitimate explanations and worthy experiments. But you're like "Oh I love him and his theories, he's always right, but I won't follow him when he thinks the Earth is round, although I learn everything from him OMGZ"


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2007, 01:36:39 AM »
Why do you disagree with Einstein?  Do you believe you are smarter than him?


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2007, 01:41:06 AM »
Why do you disagree with Einstein?  Do you believe you are smarter than him?


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I totally agree with him, especially the part where he didn't think the Earth is flat. He was ok with the universal fact that the Earth is spherical.

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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2007, 01:43:45 AM »
But you said that gravity exists, whereas Einstein says it does not.


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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2007, 01:48:24 AM »
But you said that gravity exists, whereas Einstein says it does not.


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I told you what I think exists, gravity as an conservative force is one, and the other is pseudo-force. I never said "pseudo-force" is is nonsense. but you? You totally agree with only his words and not others, you don't like to be knowledgeable from different trustworthy sources, and now you end up in contradictions. You love and believe Einstein = Yes, you agree on what he agrees most = No.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2007, 01:50:04 AM »
Off topic: I'm gonna go now and watch a movie. See you tonight, I'm looking forward to see your cute responses.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2007, 07:33:44 AM »
Thank you, TheEngineer, for taking the time to do that.
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2007, 07:45:49 AM »
The experiment is only flawed on timing?  From what I've read you can still perform the experiment and still see results, it would just take longer....so do masses attract or not?
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Re: So I am a little confused
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2007, 08:14:38 AM »
The experiment is only flawed on timing?  From what I've read you can still perform the experiment and still see results, it would just take longer....so do masses attract or not?
I thought you wanted my take on that site specifically.  Yes, there is an acceleration between masses that we know as gravitation.  Whether or not this is universal, is the question.


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