The most important question of all

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silverhammermba

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The most important question of all
« on: March 29, 2007, 08:24:55 PM »
If you believe in RE theory, what would it take to convince you that the Earth is flat?

If you believe in FE theory, what would it take to convince you that the Earth is spherical?


I think that these are questions that every single person on these forums should be required to answer. Please, be specific in your responses and try not to start a flame war or get off topic arguing specific points of either theory.

Oh, and a very helpful link http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/index.html#index
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Tom usually says at this point that people have seen the ice-wall. It is the Ross Ice Shelf. That usually kills the conversation by the power of sheer bull-shit alone.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 09:05:59 PM »
To convert me to a FE, the only thing you need to do is prove that FE hypothesis is true. That is all.

So many questions, no logical answers.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 09:51:32 PM »
Send me to the International Space Station.  Since there are a bunch of you RE'ers, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to raise $20 million to send me up there.


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silverhammermba

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 09:57:07 PM »
To convert me to a FE, the only thing you need to do is prove that FE hypothesis is true. That is all.

Please, be specific. What would FEers have to say or do in order to prove to you that FE hypothesis is true?
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Tom usually says at this point that people have seen the ice-wall. It is the Ross Ice Shelf. That usually kills the conversation by the power of sheer bull-shit alone.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 12:11:23 AM »
Send me to the International Space Station.  Since there are a bunch of you RE'ers, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to raise $20 million to send me up there.
The government would just pay you to keep the illusion going.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 12:15:04 AM »
I'm pretty sure a trip to this "ice wall" could convince me.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 12:25:54 AM »
I'm pretty sure a trip to this "ice wall" could convince me.
You mean Antarctica?

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 12:27:14 AM »
I'm pretty sure a trip to this "ice wall" could convince me.
You mean Antarctica?
Yeah, I meant Antartica. I wrapped "ice wall" in quotes for a reason.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 12:28:13 AM »
I'm pretty sure a trip to this "ice wall" could convince me.
You mean Antarctica?
Yeah, I meant Antartica. I wrapped "ice wall" in quotes for a reason.
So... a trip to Antarctica would convince you?

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 12:31:44 AM »
I'm pretty sure a trip to this "ice wall" could convince me.
You mean Antarctica?
Yeah, I meant Antartica. I wrapped "ice wall" in quotes for a reason.
So... a trip to Antarctica would convince you?
No, what I was trying to say was "If Antartica is really a big wall, then I'd be convinced that the Earth is flat.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 12:33:07 AM »
I'm pretty sure a trip to this "ice wall" could convince me.
You mean Antarctica?
Yeah, I meant Antartica. I wrapped "ice wall" in quotes for a reason.
So... a trip to Antarctica would convince you?
No, what I was trying to say was "If Antartica is really a big wall, then I'd be convinced that the Earth is flat.
Okay, that makes more sense.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2007, 01:56:35 AM »
Define a 'wall'.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2007, 05:46:28 AM »
I would want to see it with my own eyes.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2007, 03:45:04 PM »
Send me to the International Space Station.  Since there are a bunch of you RE'ers, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to raise $20 million to send me up there.
You don't need to go to the ISS. Just take me up on my balloon experiment.http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=12083.0
I'll let you use your own digital camera (or film if you prefer) if you want so that you don't think I rigged mine.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2007, 04:42:27 PM »
No, I would rather go to the ISS, but thanks, though.  You can wire the money into the "Send TheEngineer into Space so That He Can Discover the True Shape of the World" fund instead of wasting it on toy rockets.


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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2007, 06:00:44 PM »
Don't waste your money.  Nothing will convince me that the Earth is round because I'm 100% certain that the Earth is flat and it's all a big conspiracy.

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Midnight

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2007, 06:49:27 PM »
Again, someone define a 'wall'
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2007, 07:03:01 PM »
To convert me to a FE, the only thing you need to do is prove that FE hypothesis is true. That is all.

Please, be specific. What would FEers have to say or do in order to prove to you that FE hypothesis is true?

Ok, unnn. I think a trip to Antarctica I guess. Don't worry guys, when I become a scientist, I'll volunteer to work in the Antarctica.

O yeah, are the scientists down there part of the conspiracy? They don't work for NASA.

So many questions, no logical answers.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2007, 06:51:18 AM »
No, I would rather go to the ISS, but thanks, though.  You can wire the money into the "Send TheEngineer into Space so That He Can Discover the True Shape of the World" fund instead of wasting it on toy rockets.
What toy rocket? My experiment involved a high altitude weather balloon. I think at 90,000 ft, you would be unable to deny seeing a globe.

I think your refusal to participate says a lot about your true beliefs and motives.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2007, 07:38:51 AM »
To convert me to a FE, the only thing you need to do is prove that FE hypothesis is true. That is all.

Please, be specific. What would FEers have to say or do in order to prove to you that FE hypothesis is true?

Ok, unnn. I think a trip to Antarctica I guess. Don't worry guys, when I become a scientist, I'll volunteer to work in the Antarctica.

O yeah, are the scientists down there part of the conspiracy? They don't work for NASA.

I don't think so.  Because I can't see them actually going out far enough to hit the edge of the earth.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2007, 08:31:13 AM »
To convert me to a FE, the only thing you need to do is prove that FE hypothesis is true. That is all.

Please, be specific. What would FEers have to say or do in order to prove to you that FE hypothesis is true?

Ok, unnn. I think a trip to Antarctica I guess. Don't worry guys, when I become a scientist, I'll volunteer to work in the Antarctica.

O yeah, are the scientists down there part of the conspiracy? They don't work for NASA.

I don't think so.  Because I can't see them actually going out far enough to hit the edge of the earth.

What do you mean? They make their experiments all over Antarctica.

So many questions, no logical answers.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2007, 09:19:38 AM »
No, I would rather go to the ISS, but thanks, though.  You can wire the money into the "Send TheEngineer into Space so That He Can Discover the True Shape of the World" fund instead of wasting it on toy rockets.
What toy rocket? My experiment involved a high altitude weather balloon. I think at 90,000 ft, you would be unable to deny seeing a globe.
Ok, then instead of wasting it on a weather balloon, send it to the fund.  All I need is just $19,999,980 more and I can be the next space tourist!

(I figured I could chip in at least $20 to help take the burden off you RE'ers)


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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2007, 09:43:03 AM »
What toy rocket? My experiment involved a high altitude weather balloon. I think at 90,000 ft, you would be unable to deny seeing a globe.

I think your refusal to participate says a lot about your true beliefs and motives.
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An altitude of 90,000 feet is well within military airspace.  Trespassing into airspace is a good way to get yourself arrested and tried under a military court.

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Nicolae Carpathia

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2007, 09:45:18 AM »
What toy rocket? My experiment involved a high altitude weather balloon. I think at 90,000 ft, you would be unable to deny seeing a globe.

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I think your refusal to participate says a lot about your true beliefs and motives.

An altitude of 90,000 feet is well within military airspace.  Trespassing into airspace is a good way to get yourself arrested and tried under a military court.

More proofs of the conspiracy, eh?

So many questions, no logical answers.

Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2007, 11:37:18 AM »
An altitude of 90,000 feet is well within military airspace.  Trespassing into airspace is a good way to get yourself arrested and tried under a military court.
What military?

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2007, 02:53:19 PM »
That's right, more proof of the conspiracy.  NASA doesn't want anyone seeing the Ice Wall.

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Nicolae Carpathia

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2007, 03:59:53 PM »
That's right, more proof of the conspiracy.  NASA doesn't want anyone seeing the Ice Wall.
Oh, so now NASA is the military? Or does NASA has a military?

Check this out, I got a pic of the NASA army:



And this is one of the ships that are guarding the ice wall:



And here's what happens when you try to go to the ice wall:


So many questions, no logical answers.

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Midnight

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2007, 06:37:26 PM »
An altitude of 90,000 feet is well within military airspace.  Trespassing into airspace is a good way to get yourself arrested and tried under a military court.

Or disappeared.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2007, 09:09:26 PM »
What toy rocket? My experiment involved a high altitude weather balloon. I think at 90,000 ft, you would be unable to deny seeing a globe.

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I think your refusal to participate says a lot about your true beliefs and motives.

An altitude of 90,000 feet is well within military airspace.  Trespassing into airspace is a good way to get yourself arrested and tried under a military court.

if you register you plans with the FAA and get a permit, you could send a balloon up

second of all, what's the ice wall? i've been to antarctica with my dad's + his friend once. there's no wall. the mainland (not the mountainous areas) is just really flat + barren, and really cold
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Re: The most important question of all
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2007, 12:49:55 PM »
What toy rocket? My experiment involved a high altitude weather balloon. I think at 90,000 ft, you would be unable to deny seeing a globe.

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I think your refusal to participate says a lot about your true beliefs and motives.

An altitude of 90,000 feet is well within military airspace.  Trespassing into airspace is a good way to get yourself arrested and tried under a military court.

if you register you plans with the FAA and get a permit, you could send a balloon up

second of all, what's the ice wall? i've been to antarctica with my dad's + his friend once. there's no wall. the mainland (not the mountainous areas) is just really flat + barren, and really cold

Ohh, you said flat.  That doesn't help your argument.