Dang they became great at photoshop

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Dang they became great at photoshop
« on: March 07, 2007, 03:50:41 PM »
















Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 03:51:16 PM »
Props to the government, on a job well done.

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 04:03:02 PM »
The Conspiracy should give them a raise.
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 04:04:13 PM »
1.) Open each of those NASA Round Earth pictures in notepad and note the photoshop headers.

2.) The first one was obviously done with early 90's 3D modeling.
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 04:11:44 PM »
I'm sure the government uses Adobe Photoshop... Then forgets to get rid of the heading. I mean who would notice that?!


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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 11:53:32 PM »
The first one appears to be an illustration, and there's nothing amongst the rest that couldn't easily be created from scratch.

moved this into questions/clar.

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2007, 01:46:15 AM »
what about that astronaut they just fired...she would sure leak the info, cause she is pissed
That's actually a good point.
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 02:11:19 AM »
1.) Open each of those NASA Round Earth pictures in notepad and note the photoshop headers.

The header is probably there in every image that is saved with photoshop, it doesn't have to mean it's "made" with photoshop.

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 02:57:08 PM »
So Tom you admit they don't look photoshopped? Because your only defense seems to be "lol photoshop headers" which is 100% irrelevant. Still no explanation for all the photos taken when computers had all the processing power of a wrist watch and were ths size of buildings.

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 03:09:13 PM »
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So Tom you admit they don't look photoshopped? Because your only defense seems to be "lol photoshop headers" which is 100% irrelevant.

Images 1 and 3 have obvious inconsistencies with the other images. Obviously illustrations or 3D models of some sort.

Images 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 looks like planet renderings straight out of the original Star Trek.

The remainders were probably contrived through one of NASA's planet simulators.

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Still no explanation for all the photos taken when computers had all the processing power of a wrist watch and were ths size of buildings.

Early shots of the round earth were high altitude shots taken with slight fish-eye lenses. The fabrication of lenses is a technology that date back to the 1600's.

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 03:13:38 PM »
so what if they had lense bending capabilities in the 1600's they can't do anything with that when they don't have high altitude plane capabilities

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 03:15:36 PM »
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so what if they had lense bending capabilities in the 1600's they can't do anything with that when they don't have high altitude plane capabilities

Which is why no pictures of a round earth were taken in the 1600's.  ::)

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2007, 03:16:09 PM »
No Tom you can't just say "This is what I think hence it is fact". The first picture does stand out a mile because it's a computer model probably based on a photo-realistic skin.. The others look real, because they are real. Your fish-eye lens "theory" is made completelty laughable when you consider all the many many photos of Earth where something or someone is also in picture. So by my reckoning you are actually admitting the Earth is round seeing as they aren't fake and no fish-eye lens was used. Well done Tom, welcome to the real world.

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2007, 03:42:27 PM »
LOL @ Tom. I suppose next he is going to say its a government conspiracy.

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 05:29:57 PM »
what about that astronaut they just fired...she would sure leak the info, cause she is pissed
You conveniently ignored this post, Tom.:P
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2007, 06:43:44 PM »
Why havn't YOU FEers TRIED TO GET INTO NASA AND THEN GET THE PHOTOS THAT PROVE ITS NOT ROUND??? OR BECOME AN EMPLOYEE?

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2007, 06:47:21 PM »
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so what if they had lense bending capabilities in the 1600's they can't do anything with that when they don't have high altitude plane capabilities

Which is why no pictures of a round earth were taken in the 1600's.  ::)

which is why there was no space travel in the 1600's, you tard

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 06:49:48 PM »
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so what if they had lense bending capabilities in the 1600's they can't do anything with that when they don't have high altitude plane capabilities

Which is why no pictures of a round earth were taken in the 1600's.  ::)

which is why there was no space travel in the 1600's, you tard

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 06:53:07 PM »
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So Tom you admit they don't look photoshopped? Because your only defense seems to be "lol photoshop headers" which is 100% irrelevant.

Images 1 and 3 have obvious inconsistencies with the other images. Obviously illustrations or 3D models of some sort.

Images 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 looks like planet renderings straight out of the original Star Trek.

The remainders were probably contrived through one of NASA's planet simulators.

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Still no explanation for all the photos taken when computers had all the processing power of a wrist watch and were ths size of buildings.

Early shots of the round earth were high altitude shots taken with slight fish-eye lenses. The fabrication of lenses is a technology that date back to the 1600's.



Those "inconsistancies" you seem to see in NASA's pics, they occur because of weather, and the different cameras used to take them.
I think this calls for a great big DUH! for Tom.
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2007, 12:15:33 AM »
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So Tom you admit they don't look photoshopped? Because your only defense seems to be "lol photoshop headers" which is 100% irrelevant.

Images 1 and 3 have obvious inconsistencies with the other images. Obviously illustrations or 3D models of some sort.

Images 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 looks like planet renderings straight out of the original Star Trek.

The remainders were probably contrived through one of NASA's planet simulators.

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Still no explanation for all the photos taken when computers had all the processing power of a wrist watch and were ths size of buildings.

Early shots of the round earth were high altitude shots taken with slight fish-eye lenses. The fabrication of lenses is a technology that date back to the 1600's.



Those "inconsistancies" you seem to see in NASA's pics, they occur because of weather, and the different cameras used to take them.
I think this calls for a great big DUH! for Tom.

too right

he aint no genious

i heard in this topic about the fact maybe models were used instead of photoediting software (which is impossible on the original computers made)

erm think about it. the pics show clouds, not something you could portray realisticly on a model

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2007, 09:36:24 AM »
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i heard in this topic about the fact maybe models were used instead of photoediting software (which is impossible on the original computers made)

You are assuming that the Conspiracy does not keep the public in the stone age when it comes to computer technology. Militarily, there is a great incentive to keep other nations from developing advanced technology.
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2007, 09:39:26 AM »
Tom give it a rest, they didn't have advanced photo editing software in the 60's. They barely had software at all.

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2007, 09:47:54 AM »
Tom give it a rest, they didn't have advanced photo editing software in the 60's. They barely had software at all.

As Tom said, the government has more advanced technology than the general public. Consider all the money that NASA space programme's have recieved - isn't it likely that they would put some of the money into developing photo manipulation technology?



It looks pretty flat to me :p

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2007, 09:57:19 AM »
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Tom give it a rest, they didn't have advanced photo editing software in the 60's. They barely had software at all.

On June 9th of the year 1959 the U.S. Navy launched USS George Washington, which carried sixteen Polaris missiles. The first nuclear submarine to carry nuclear warheads, it was able to attack any point on earth at any time from an undetected location.

One can imagine the amount of computing power required to calculate vector coordinates on the fly and give the submarine captain a live azimuthal projection of missile targets. Not something a simple pocket watch could achieve. By the 1960's the American Government was well ahead of the game when it came to technology.

Over the years the technology simply trickled down in an effort to cash in on patents. Today government super computers are probably several decades ahead of anything the public will have. The military doesn't reveal all of its cards, even if it occasionally allows you you to see the jack it has.
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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2007, 09:59:13 AM »
Tom give it a rest, they didn't have advanced photo editing software in the 60's. They barely had software at all.

As Tom said, the government has more advanced technology than the general public. Consider all the money that NASA space programme's have recieved - isn't it likely that they would put some of the money into developing photo manipulation technology?



It looks pretty flat to me :p

No it's not likely.

Yes that picture looks flat. A flattened represenation of the globe for ease of use would look flat though.

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2007, 10:00:48 AM »
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Tom give it a rest, they didn't have advanced photo editing software in the 60's. They barely had software at all.

On February 1st of the year 1960 the U.S. Navy launched USS George Washington, which carried sixteen Polaris missiles. The first nuclear submarine to carry nuclear warheads, it was able to attack any point on earth at any time from an undetected location.

One can imagine the amount of computing power required to calculate vector coordinates on the fly and give the submarine captain a live azimuthal projection of missile targets. Not something a simple pocket watch could achieve. By the 1960's the American Government was well ahead of the game when it came to technology.

Over the years the technology simply trickled down in an effort to cash in on patents. Today government super computers are probably several decades ahead of anything the public will have. The military doesn't reveal all of its cards, even if it allows you you to see the jack it has.

After a few weeks posting on these boards I'm still waiting for you to post something which is more than sheer speculation. I still wait.

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2007, 10:13:04 AM »
I also suggest you think of better arguments for your trolling. You become more and more obvious by the day as the REer that you really are.

Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2007, 10:37:46 AM »
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Tom give it a rest, they didn't have advanced photo editing software in the 60's. They barely had software at all.

On February 1st of the year 1960 the U.S. Navy launched USS George Washington, which carried sixteen Polaris missiles. The first nuclear submarine to carry nuclear warheads, it was able to attack any point on earth at any time from an undetected location.

One can imagine the amount of computing power required to calculate vector coordinates on the fly and give the submarine captain a live azimuthal projection of missile targets. Not something a simple pocket watch could achieve. By the 1960's the American Government was well ahead of the game when it came to technology.

Over the years the technology simply trickled down in an effort to cash in on patents. Today government super computers are probably several decades ahead of anything the public will have. The military doesn't reveal all of its cards, even if it occasionally allows you you to see the jack it has.

Take careful note, class, that Tom attempts no quantification of the level of processing power required for the Washington to target its missiles beyond the vague fuzzy statement of 'one can imagine', nor does he show the resolution of the output systems for their computers.

Remember, in order to distribute these falsified Round-earth photos, the conspiracy would need to digitize the image, store it in memory, alter it to their satisfaction, and then print it out again.

In what way does the ability to launch a ballistic missile imply the existence of photo-editing software, or photo-quality printers?

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Re: Dang they became great at photoshop
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2007, 10:55:20 AM »
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Take careful note, class, that Tom attempts no quantification of the level of processing power required for the Washington to target its missiles beyond the vague fuzzy statement of 'one can imagine', nor does he show the resolution of the output systems for their computers.

By comparison, the game of Pong came out November 29, 1972. Pong was, to the the public, the most advanced simulation at the time.

If, by 1959 the government had the computer advancements necessary to launch and track nuclear missiles on the fly from remote locations, it is by no large stretch of the imagination that they had other undisclosed advancements.

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Remember, in order to distribute these falsified Round-earth photos, the conspiracy would need to digitize the image, store it in memory, alter it to their satisfaction, and then print it out again.

Not really. I could warp an image of the flat horizon into a round or concave horizon using 1600's levels of technology. Simply take a picture of the scene, or parts of a scene, with a special lens that gives the Curvature of Field effect. The fabrication of lenses are well within 1600's levels of technology. No computers are even necessary.
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