Other Side

So i've had a search trying to find out what is apparently on the other side of the earth (if its flat..) - every thread I've found either avoids the question or says something about gravity not acting on the other side (which doesn't explain anything).

Can anyone give a more satisfactory explanation? Presumably there's a lot of iron somewhere given that compasses work, but what's actually there?

Thanks

PA

Nobody can know for sure what is on the other side, but I would speculate that it is likely made of the same stuff that this side is made out of.  There is likely an iron core  in the middle of the Earth, and this is what causes compasses to work. 

Know body can know for sure what is on the other side, but I would speculate that it is likely made of the same stuff that this side is made out of.  There is likely an iron core  in the middle of the Earth, and this is what causes compasses to work.

So there's another land with oceans and things? Is the idea that the flat earth is the same as the round earth but just squashed into a disk? Presumably you could look off the edge and do spectroscopic measurements to see what's on the other side - or does the sun not shine there? (in the FAQ there was meant to be a picture of how the sun/earth system looked but it didn't load for me).

Can the observed behaviour of the earths magnetic field be reconciled with the flat earth idea? Because presumably (haven't thought it through thoroughly) the shape of the earths core dictates the magnetic behaviour.

Then sun would have quit shining long before you reached the edge. 

Why would you think that there is another side,, maybe there isn't. 

Why would you think that there is another side,, maybe there isn't. 

Now THAT is, in my opinion, even more messed up idea than the ice dome... Does any of you believe that FE could be an infinitely long space noodle and we happen to exist on its end? Wow...
Unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say. There is one pretty reasonable model which does not require "other side" of Earth...

Then sun would have quit shining long before you reached the edge.

Huh? So the sun doesn't shine out into the solar system? (cos i couldn't find the picture of the sun/earth system). I have a bit of a hard time believing that the sun only shines on the earth given all the available spectroscopic data (not to mention all the other evidence..).

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away? 

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

So light does well to get as far as earth.

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:18:22 AM

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

So light does well to get as far as earth.

You do well to hit the buttons on your keyboard.  However, light fades with distance.  What is so hard to understand about this concept? 

Quote from: inquisitive on July 28, 2014, 05:48:55 AM

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:18:22 AM

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

So light does well to get as far as earth.

You do well to hit the buttons on your keyboard.  However, light fades with distance.  What is so hard to understand about this concept?

Please provide details that show the effect on earth across the days and year for different locations.

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:52:49 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on July 28, 2014, 05:48:55 AM

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:18:22 AM

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

So light does well to get as far as earth.

You do well to hit the buttons on your keyboard.  However, light fades with distance.  What is so hard to understand about this concept?

Please provide details that show the effect on earth across the days and year for different locations.

You are asking me to provide evidence that light fades as it travels through the atmoplane?  Really? 

Quote from: inquisitive on July 28, 2014, 05:59:37 AM

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:52:49 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on July 28, 2014, 05:48:55 AM

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:18:22 AM

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

So light does well to get as far as earth.

You do well to hit the buttons on your keyboard.  However, light fades with distance.  What is so hard to understand about this concept?

Please provide details that show the effect on earth across the days and year for different locations.

You are asking me to provide evidence that light fades as it travels through the atmoplane?  Really? 

Do you have any?  If it is so common that you balk at it, surely it is trivially easy to provide it.

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 06:04:51 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on July 28, 2014, 05:59:37 AM

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:52:49 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on July 28, 2014, 05:48:55 AM

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 05:18:22 AM

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

So light does well to get as far as earth.

You do well to hit the buttons on your keyboard.  However, light fades with distance.  What is so hard to understand about this concept?

Please provide details that show the effect on earth across the days and year for different locations.

You are asking me to provide evidence that light fades as it travels through the atmoplane?  Really? 

Do you have any?  If it is so common that you balk at it, surely it is trivially easy to provide it.

The "Purple Mountain Majesty" does not exist? 

Is that an elaborate way of saying "no"?

Quote from: Goth on July 28, 2014, 03:52:22 AM

Why would you think that there is another side,, maybe there isn't. 

Now THAT is, in my opinion, even more messed up idea than the ice dome... Does any of you believe that FE could be an infinitely long space noodle and we happen to exist on its end? Wow...
Unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say. There is one pretty reasonable model which does not require "other side" of Earth...

Could it be, that there is no' what you're calling outer space,,

The atmoplane is not perfectly transparent.  Light can only travel a finite distance through the air.  Have you never seen mountains fade away?

I think you misunderstood my question. The sun shines far beyond earth to other planets, because the earths atmosphere is only around earth (and light can travel a lot further in a vacuum). So unless the sun is also a flat disk that is exactly the same size as earth and the earth never rotated you'd be able to observe light reflecting off the dark side of earth? In the same way you can detect planets and molecules present in interstellar space.

In your model, the sun can shine forever.  However, in observed reality, the sun has a finite distance in which things can be observed.  I gave the "Purple Mountain Majesty" as an example.  A mountain will fade from view with distance. 

In your model, the sun can shine forever.  However, in observed reality, the sun has a finite distance in which things can be observed.  I gave the "Purple Mountain Majesty" as an example.  A mountain will fade from view with distance.

Light from the sun reaches far beyond earth (like to other planets). I'm not really sure what point you're making, and it seems irrelevant. My question is about whether or not you could observe the underside of the flat earth, or does the sun only shine on earth and nowhere beyond it?

In your model, the sun shines on the planets.  In mine, it does not.  How could a sun that orbits a disk shine on the edge of that disk?  That is ridiculous. 

In your model, the sun shines on the planets.  In mine, it does not.  How could a sun that orbits a disk shine on the edge of that disk?  That is ridiculous.

Right, you could have said that when I put my initial post up and it would have saved a lot of hassle. So the sun orbits the earth in your model? Like i said initially, the picture of the sun/earth system in the FAQ didnt load for me, so I dont know what your system looks like.

Quote from: Macpie on July 28, 2014, 04:02:50 AM

Quote from: Goth on July 28, 2014, 03:52:22 AM

Why would you think that there is another side,, maybe there isn't. 

Now THAT is, in my opinion, even more messed up idea than the ice dome... Does any of you believe that FE could be an infinitely long space noodle and we happen to exist on its end? Wow...
Unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say. There is one pretty reasonable model which does not require "other side" of Earth...

Could it be, that there is no' what you're calling outer space,,

And how would that fit UA? Either way, the idea that we have an infinite amount of rock below our feet seems even more outlandish than most of the stuff on this forum. Some "theories" proposed seem well formed enough that a model based on them being true could be internally consistent, but this? Really?

So i've had a search trying to find out what is apparently on the other side of the earth (if its flat..) - every thread I've found either avoids the question or says something about gravity not acting on the other side (which doesn't explain anything).

Thanks

PA

That's much like asking "what's on the other side of the moon?"  before lunar probes were launched.  Without the right equipment, it's impossible to know for sure.

Quote from: Goth on July 28, 2014, 06:29:16 AM

Quote from: Macpie on July 28, 2014, 04:02:50 AM

Quote from: Goth on July 28, 2014, 03:52:22 AM

Why would you think that there is another side,, maybe there isn't. 

Now THAT is, in my opinion, even more messed up idea than the ice dome... Does any of you believe that FE could be an infinitely long space noodle and we happen to exist on its end? Wow...
Unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say. There is one pretty reasonable model which does not require "other side" of Earth...

Could it be, that there is no' what you're calling outer space,,

And how would that fit UA? Either way, the idea that we have an infinite amount of rock below our feet seems even more outlandish than most of the stuff on this forum. Some "theories" proposed seem well formed enough that a model based on them being true could be internally consistent, but this? Really?

This could mean you or someone is making fun of someone.

Quote from: jroa on July 28, 2014, 09:06:15 AM

In your model, the sun shines on the planets.  In mine, it does not.  How could a sun that orbits a disk shine on the edge of that disk?  That is ridiculous.

Right, you could have said that when I put my initial post up and it would have saved a lot of hassle. So the sun orbits the earth in your model? Like i said initially, the picture of the sun/earth system in the FAQ didnt load for me, so I dont know what your system looks like.

Have your read the [quote = http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Flat_Earth_Wiki]Wiki[/quote]?  A lot of the more basic questions about FET are answered and explained there.  If you are still confused, after reading the Wiki, then you are more than welcome to ask your questions here in FEQ&A.