(Edited) General FE questions

Hello everyone. I was wondering if this flat earth theory has its basis in religion. Some of the discussions seem to remind me of creationist/evolution arguments. From what I can remember, there isn't anything in the bible that says the earth is flat. So maybe it just seems religious.

Calculus. This mathematics can be used to predict what, things like planets, will do. It's pretty easy to test too.
So, does a flat earther believe calculus is wrong or does calculus predict a flat earth and all that accelerated movement upward? Or is it something else entirely?

I, personally, an not a religious person.  However, from what I understand, the bible makes several references to the Earth being flat. 

Your calculus question is confusing.  Are you saying that calculus proves that the Earth is round?  Because I thought that it just allowed a person to calculate round things.  Perhaps you could elaborate?

Also, welcome to the flat Earth society.  I hope you enjoy your stay.  I am moving this to FE Q&A. 

Yea. Calculus taught us how the solar system developed into spheres from a giant cloud of particles over billions of years. There are spectacular visual models of it on the internet which are neat but it's the math that says spheres.

Perhaps you are confusing calculus and general physics?  I am not aware of gravity relying on calculus.  Perhaps you can elaborate further? 

Calculus was famously invented by Isaac Newton to solve problems involving gravity, acceleration etc. Its use isn't limited to that. The theory developed using calculus presumes there is a force between objects proportional to their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. The calculus itself is just a tool to solve the problems, it doesn't predict anything in itself.

Well, physics relies on calculus.

But yea. Physics, calculus, all describe spheres and ellipsis.

My question meant to determine if the FE opinion was counter to calculus or that calculus describes a flat earth and constant acceleration for our gravity.


Shmeggley, we use Newton's math to predict everything pertaining to celestial objects. When we send a rocket to orbit, determine if a giant meteor will hit on Jupiter or not(remember that?), ect.

Physics can also rely on trig.  Calculus is not always necessary. 

Well, I guess we can ignore what calculus is or isn't for this thread. It doesn't matter to the question.

I'll include all the previous examples.

Does the FE theory use trig, calc, physics, or some other mathematics to prove a flat earth or is it counter to those?

Does trig work on a sphere?  I thought not. 

Well, physics relies on calculus.

But yea. Physics, calculus, all describe spheres and ellipsis.

My question meant to determine if the FE opinion was counter to calculus or that calculus describes a flat earth and constant acceleration for our gravity.


Shmeggley, we use Newton's math to predict everything pertaining to celestial objects. When we send a rocket to orbit, determine if a giant meteor will hit on Jupiter or not(remember that?), ect.

If you assume celestial objects to be massive bodies in motion around the Sun, and use Newton's math to solve problems about their motion, you do get the correct results. But does that mean that those objects are actually massive bodies orbiting the Sun?

Yea Shmeddley, that's what it means. I think your getting to my question here.

If I track a planet across the sky and use Newton's math, I can determine the speed, mass and the future position of that planet.
So that's why most everyone thinks the planets, ours included, are spheres.

Is there similar system FEers use to determine a flat earth, or do FEers use the same math to come up with a flat earth?

Jroa, I used trig because you included it.

Why do Newton's calculations not work on things like galaxies?  His numbers seem to be selective. 

Jroa, I don't know what you mean when you say "Newton's calculations don't work on galaxies".

You know. Forget I asked that.

Let's just say I disagree with that idea.

Any thoughts on the question?

Gravity calculations do not work on Galaxies.  That is why RE'ers had to invent dark matter and dark energy. 

I don't want to debate if modern physics is correct or not Jroa.

Do you not want to talk about the question at hand or something?

I've asked it a few times now..

Is there a similar system FEers use to determine a flat earth, or do FEers use the same math to come up with a flat earth?

Actually, the question was mainly about religion.  But, if you want to change the subject every time you get backed into a corner, be my guest. 

Jroa and his misinterpretations about dark matter and dark energy.

lol, like rottingroom is an expert on these made up things. 

lol, like rottingroom is an expert on these made up things.

Please refrain from low content posting in the upper for a. Do it again and I'll post your social security number and credit card numbers.

There's no need to be rude.

Perhaps if you reread my original post you'll find I asked two questions. I'm not sure why you determined what the original post was "mainly" about.
The religious part you had no trouble in directly answering. The mathematics part seems to have you stuck.

The reason I submitted this question is because when I looked though your FAQ and other areas I found lots of claims but no "this is how we discovered the earth was flat".

I wanted to know if this society was just religious in its claims or was there some science to it also.

Quote from: jroa on July 18, 2014, 04:11:16 PM

lol, like rottingroom is an expert on these made up things.

Please refrain from low content posting in the upper for a. Do it again and I'll post your social security number and credit card numbers.

Please refrain from memberating in these serious discussions.  Thanks. 

I don't want to debate if modern physics is correct or not Jroa.

Do you not want to talk about the question at hand or something?

I've asked it a few times now..

Is there a similar system FEers use to determine a flat earth, or do FEers use the same math to come up with a flat earth?

Jroa, this is Flat Earth Q&A. If you would like to debate modern physics please start a new thread in Flat Earth Debate.

But, I am giving flat Earth answers. 

But, I am giving flat Earth answers. 

But you're also asking round earth questions.

Why did Shmeggley quote binder and then address me? 

I was bringing his concern about you debating in the Q&A thread to a moderator.

I was bringing his concern about you debating in the Q&A thread to a moderator.

You were telling on me to me? 

Quote from: Shmeggley on July 18, 2014, 06:28:19 PM

I was bringing his concern about you debating in the Q&A thread to a moderator.

You were telling on me to me?

Who else?  You are simultaneously the worst behaved poster on these boards and the only mod.  Which puts us in a bit of a quandary doesn't it?

Pongo is still here.  You could tell on me to him.