The flat Earth movement is growing

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #90 on: February 18, 2014, 06:43:28 AM »
Surprisingly, Australians believe that humans roamed the Earth with dinosaurs and few of them know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the sun.

More Australians incorrectly thought that the earliest humans co-existed with dinosaurs this year, compared to 2010 (73% vs 70%).
60% is not a few.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #91 on: February 18, 2014, 06:58:39 AM »
60% is not a few.

OK, fine.  The majority of Australians know how long it takes for the Earth to orbit the sun, even if it is just a slight majority.  Is that better? 

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #92 on: February 18, 2014, 07:24:14 AM »
Surprisingly, Australians believe that humans roamed the Earth with dinosaurs and few of them know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the sun.


Sadly, I think you'd find similar figures in America too, and probably half the (allegedly) 1st-world countries around the planet.  I put it down to decreasing standards of high school science teaching—although teachers in Australia bitterly resent this conclusion.

At any rate, most of these sorts of surveys involve insufficient numbers of respondents, and ridiculous extrapolations are then performed so as to purportedly represent the whole population.

Just a silly is the Dec 2013 Harris poll that indicated 74% of Americans believe in the existence of God.
 

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #93 on: February 18, 2014, 07:25:04 AM »
Jroa, there is still no escaping the key fact you misrepresented -
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When asked whether Earth orbits the
Sun or Sun orbits the Earth, 25 percent
of the people replied wrongly.
the two choices were quite clear, those that answered incorrectly chose that the sun orbits the earth. As far as I can see, your flat earth models do not have the sun orbiting the earth, they have it shooting around above the earth in whatever system fits an argument. Do you believe the sun orbits the earth? Also, if x percentage of people fail a maths test, are they rejecting the "maths" system as a lie? no, they just got the questions wrong. Same thing applies here.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 07:29:01 AM by glokta »
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Use your brain. There is no sun in space. You are simply duped.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #94 on: February 18, 2014, 07:29:43 AM »
Surprisingly, Australians believe that humans roamed the Earth with dinosaurs and few of them know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the sun.

More Australians incorrectly thought that the earliest humans co-existed with dinosaurs this year, compared to 2010 (73% vs 70%).

Wow, now you're making me depressed!

But it confirms to me that our decision to send our son to a private school, is the right decision.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #95 on: February 18, 2014, 07:32:22 AM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.
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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #96 on: February 18, 2014, 07:34:55 AM »
It would seem to me that a lot of you RE'ers are getting your panties in a punch just because there are not as many of you as you thought.

Uh... maybe you should be checking the panties worn by the 200 flat earth proponents before you laugh at the 7.1 billion round earth proponents?

Whoops.....

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #97 on: February 18, 2014, 07:36:15 AM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.

I can think of a few situations where 'trusting your senses' is a death sentence..

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #98 on: February 18, 2014, 07:38:15 AM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.
wow i must have missed the part where religious breakdown was detailed, care to point me to it? Would hate to think more blind assumptions are being drawn without any evidence to back them up.
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Use your brain. There is no sun in space. You are simply duped.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #99 on: February 18, 2014, 07:44:05 AM »
Well......Even Dr. Watson was amazed when Sherlock Holmes told him he didn't care whether the earth went around the sun or the sun went around the earth. LOL.
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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #100 on: February 18, 2014, 08:34:35 AM »
I wonder how many actual scientists would agree with you.. they'd definitely laugh at you.. those that would spend even a second of their time on you. which is unlikely.
Like all the time YOU are spending on me?   HAHAHA! :D

Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #101 on: February 18, 2014, 09:02:38 AM »
But nowhere in that 'story', does it say there are an increasing amount of people that think the earth is flat..  the meaning you've taken from it, is something you've conjured up in your own imagination.
Nope, you FEer's are still as much the fools as you have always been.  Whether you think the earth is flat, or you don't know the planets orbit the sun, it makes no difference.. you ignorant no matter how you look at. it.
But it does say "one in four Americans still believe Sun moves around our Earth."  If you had the capacity for independent thought, you might wonder why our Earth can revolve around such a massive sun year after year, and yet it still hasn't been sucked in by it.  In fact, according to this, it actually MOVES AWAY from the sun.  http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=317

Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #102 on: February 18, 2014, 10:16:40 AM »
I can think of a few situations where 'trusting your senses' is a death sentence..
Our senses are there for good reason.  Without them, what good is having a brain?  You wouldn't be human.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 10:27:32 AM by EarthIsASpaceship »

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #103 on: February 18, 2014, 10:40:17 AM »
Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship
Our senses are there for good reason.
Without them, you wouldn't be able to
use your brain.  To clarify, you need
your eyesight, your sense of direction,
and your sense of touch to feel heat
and cold.
sorry that makes no sense at all...
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Use your brain. There is no sun in space. You are simply duped.

Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #104 on: February 18, 2014, 11:18:27 AM »
Yeah, look above, I edited it for clarity.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #105 on: February 18, 2014, 01:55:47 PM »
The Democrats have been giving us a lot of free publicity lately.  That could be part of what is causing our numbers to swell.  In fact, John Kerry even mentioned us in a speech he gave the other day.
That's an impressive accomplishment. Maybe if you could get just one legitimate scientist to believe in FET, you'd be set.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #106 on: February 18, 2014, 01:58:51 PM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.
wow i must have missed the part where religious breakdown was detailed, care to point me to it? Would hate to think more blind assumptions are being drawn without any evidence to back them up.
I'm referring here to Sciences role to the wide majority of people of a religion. To back this up I'd point out peoples blind adherence to its priestcraft, its disregard to empiricism, its amorality, its power, its nature as a sociorganism that lies, and its tendency to abuse the working class.
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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #107 on: February 18, 2014, 02:03:30 PM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.
wow i must have missed the part where religious breakdown was detailed, care to point me to it? Would hate to think more blind assumptions are being drawn without any evidence to back them up.
I'm referring here to Sciences role to the wide majority of people of a religion. To back this up I'd point out peoples blind adherence to its priestcraft, its disregard to empiricism, its amorality, its power, its nature as a sociorganism that lies, and its tendency to abuse the working class.
ok great, so once again, where did you get 25% from?
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Use your brain. There is no sun in space. You are simply duped.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #108 on: February 18, 2014, 02:06:31 PM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.
wow i must have missed the part where religious breakdown was detailed, care to point me to it? Would hate to think more blind assumptions are being drawn without any evidence to back them up.
I'm referring here to Sciences role to the wide majority of people of a religion. To back this up I'd point out peoples blind adherence to its priestcraft, its disregard to empiricism, its amorality, its power, its nature as a sociorganism that lies, and its tendency to abuse the working class.
ok great, so once again, where did you get 25% from?
Right you are. That should say 75%. 3/4 believe science over their senses.
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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #109 on: February 18, 2014, 02:13:53 PM »
More and more people are throwing out mainstream science and are starting to realize that the outdated heliocentric theory of the solar system is rubbish.  25% of Americans and 34% of Europeans believe in the Geocentric model, according to this news article. 

http://www.thealmagest.com/basic-science-knowledge-poor-us-25-dont-know-earth-orbits-sun/10233
More than anything else, this says 25% of people trust their religion over their senses. That's a very sad number.
wow i must have missed the part where religious breakdown was detailed, care to point me to it? Would hate to think more blind assumptions are being drawn without any evidence to back them up.
I'm referring here to Sciences role to the wide majority of people of a religion. To back this up I'd point out peoples blind adherence to its priestcraft, its disregard to empiricism, its amorality, its power, its nature as a sociorganism that lies, and its tendency to abuse the working class.
ok great, so once again, where did you get 25% from?
Right you are. That should say 75%. 3/4 believe science over their senses.
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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #110 on: February 18, 2014, 03:03:57 PM »
But nowhere in that 'story', does it say there are an increasing amount of people that think the earth is flat..  the meaning you've taken from it, is something you've conjured up in your own imagination.
Nope, you FEer's are still as much the fools as you have always been.  Whether you think the earth is flat, or you don't know the planets orbit the sun, it makes no difference.. you ignorant no matter how you look at. it.
But it does say "one in four Americans still believe Sun moves around our Earth."  If you had the capacity for independent thought, you might wonder why our Earth can revolve around such a massive sun year after year, and yet it still hasn't been sucked in by it.  In fact, according to this, it actually MOVES AWAY from the sun.  http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=317

I know exactly why it doesn't get sucked into the sun.. it's a very simple process - But I know you're an imbecile.. so I won't bother.  The fact that you think that it should get sucked in is hysterical..

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #111 on: February 18, 2014, 03:08:45 PM »
I can think of a few situations where 'trusting your senses' is a death sentence..
Our senses are there for good reason.  Without them, what good is having a brain?  You wouldn't be human.

If you were a pilot (and thank god you're not), flying in cloud.. using your senses wouldn't be advised.

Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #112 on: February 18, 2014, 03:31:59 PM »
If you were a pilot (and thank god you're not), flying in cloud.. using your senses wouldn't be advised.
How about using some common SENSE!  ::)
« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 03:35:01 PM by EarthIsASpaceship »

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« Reply #113 on: February 18, 2014, 04:13:19 PM »
If you were a pilot (and thank god you're not), flying in cloud.. using your senses wouldn't be advised.
How about using some common SENSE!  ::)

Heheh that coming from you?! very funny

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #114 on: February 18, 2014, 06:29:31 PM »
The Democrats have been giving us a lot of free publicity lately.  That could be part of what is causing our numbers to swell.  In fact, John Kerry even mentioned us in a speech he gave the other day.

Unfortunately, the "publicity" that John Kerry gave you is all negative (as you're no doubt aware).  Kerry has no scientific accreditation to be pontificating about global climate change anyway; he's a lawyer.  And a global warming hypocrite living in a 23 room mansion in Washington DC worth $5 million, who owns a private jet and a 76-foot yacht.  Downunder, he's considered a moron... and that's the good opinions LOL.

Can you post any actual figures of the numbers of people joining the FE cause due to Kerry's publicity?  Or at least some idea of the percentage increase?
 

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2014, 08:52:27 PM »
Al Gore is exactly the same.  He can talk the talk, but he can't walk the walk.

No, I don't have any hard figures.  I have seen talk of these forums on other websites lately.  I am only assuming that Kerry's mention of us, whether positive or negative, will give us a push in membership.  It will mostly be angry noobs coming here to yell at us and tell us how dumb we are, but one or two might stick around and maybe even become productive members of this site.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2014, 09:03:56 PM »
They're both climate alarmists... both only damage whatever credibility it has left.

Al Gore though is a fraud.. apart from being a monumental hypocrite, he profits from the doom that he promotes.

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« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2014, 09:07:19 PM »
I would say that Gore is the worse of the two.  Kerry might be just as bad once he no longer has a government job, but right now, Gore just sees dollar signs in all of that climate change. 

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« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2014, 09:11:12 PM »
I would say that Gore is the worse of the two.  Kerry might be just as bad once he no longer has a government job, but right now, Gore just sees dollar signs in all of that climate change.

No doubt about it.  Completely agree with you.

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Re: The flat Earth movement is growing
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2014, 09:34:12 PM »
Well, let's try to bring this back on topic.  Democrats seem to be our greatest advertisers lately.  They almost seem like they are trying to push people to come here to hear the weird theories of the flat Earthers.  You can't buy that kind of marketing.