Given two threads, we now know that the Earth is round

Pendulums were set up in various countries, with some in the path of the eclipse and others not. Some of the preliminary results are interesting.

Video cameras taped the pendulum movements before, during and after the solar eclipse. Although no change was viewed in the pendulums outside of the eclipse path, two different sites in Europe revealed exciting results. These researchers, which were inside the path of the eclipse, discovered a change in the pendulum's path. If the results are correct, then another mystery was just created. Why would gravity change only in the areas under the eclipse' path?

"We haven't looked at their videos in detail yet, and we're not going to reach any conclusions just by eyeballing them," says Koczor, who's trying to organize the mountains of data. "If, in fact, pendulums go crazy during eclipses it suggests we don't really have an understanding of gravity and the intersection of different bodies."

Koczor says much of the data still needs to be analyzed, but the current results have stumped the scientific community. 

More information from the site:

http://home.t01.itscom.net/allais/blackprior/zhou/zhou-3.pdf

It's a treasure trove of Allais information:

Quote from: http://www.windows2universe.org/headline_universe/gravity_eclipse.html&edu=high

Pendulums were set up in various countries, with some in the path of the eclipse and others not. Some of the preliminary results are interesting.

Video cameras taped the pendulum movements before, during and after the solar eclipse. Although no change was viewed in the pendulums outside of the eclipse path, two different sites in Europe revealed exciting results. These researchers, which were inside the path of the eclipse, discovered a change in the pendulum's path. If the results are correct, then another mystery was just created. Why would gravity change only in the areas under the eclipse' path?

"We haven't looked at their videos in detail yet, and we're not going to reach any conclusions just by eyeballing them," says Koczor, who's trying to organize the mountains of data. "If, in fact, pendulums go crazy during eclipses it suggests we don't really have an understanding of gravity and the intersection of different bodies."

Koczor says much of the data still needs to be analyzed, but the current results have stumped the scientific community. 

the current results have stumped the scientific community

Quote from: http://www.windows2universe.org/headline_universe/gravity_eclipse.html&edu=high

the current results have stumped the scientific community

More information from the site:

http://home.t01.itscom.net/allais/blackprior/zhou/zhou-3.pdf

It's a treasure trove of Allais information:

Quote from: http://www.windows2universe.org/headline_universe/gravity_eclipse.html&edu=high

Pendulums were set up in various countries, with some in the path of the eclipse and others not. Some of the preliminary results are interesting.

Video cameras taped the pendulum movements before, during and after the solar eclipse. Although no change was viewed in the pendulums outside of the eclipse path, two different sites in Europe revealed exciting results. These researchers, which were inside the path of the eclipse, discovered a change in the pendulum's path. If the results are correct, then another mystery was just created. Why would gravity change only in the areas under the eclipse' path?

"We haven't looked at their videos in detail yet, and we're not going to reach any conclusions just by eyeballing them," says Koczor, who's trying to organize the mountains of data. "If, in fact, pendulums go crazy during eclipses it suggests we don't really have an understanding of gravity and the intersection of different bodies."

Koczor says much of the data still needs to be analyzed, but the current results have stumped the scientific community. 

What we know is that the RET is full of anomolies and inconsistencies, however high & mighty its advocates behave.

What we know is that the RET is full of anomolies and inconsistencies, however high & mighty its advocates behave.

What we know is that the RET is full of anomolies and inconsistencies, however high & mighty its advocates behave.

At least RET has a reasonable and consistent model for sunrises and sunsets.  Let me know when FET decides once and for all if it's because of bendy light, aetherific edification or a creative interpretation of perspective.

It is about the Coriolis force, and everyone here seems to be of the view that the RET explanation is full of anomolies.

I therefore submit that the RE explanation is probably wrong, and at least incomplete (as RE'ers have admitted).

You guys should therefore stop bringing it up like it's some kind of RE sucess story.

This thread is not about how FET is no more divided than RET. It is about the Coriolis force, and everyone here seems to be of the view that the RET explanation is full of anomolies.

I therefore submit that the RE explanation is probably wrong, and at least incomplete (as RE'ers have admitted). You guys should therefore stop bringing it up like it's some kind of RE sucess story.

And where did your spell checker go, it's the second time you write "anomolies"

it's the second time you write "anomolies"

It is well explained and quite certainly not wrong. About incomplete part I don't get it . . . What is wrong? What is missing? What anomalies?

Who has ever claimed that its perfect and we know absolutely all about it? But with its anomalies and inconsistencies

Quote from: zork on November 03, 2010, 02:23:29 PM

it's the second time you write "anomolies"

 

Quote from: zork on November 03, 2010, 02:23:29 PM

It is well explained and quite certainly not wrong. About incomplete part I don't get it . . . What is wrong? What is missing? What anomalies?

Uh...

Quote from: zork on November 03, 2010, 07:12:56 AM

Who has ever claimed that its perfect and we know absolutely all about it? But with its anomalies and inconsistencies

You know, remembering a post you wrote earlier today is not a lot to ask. You either agree with the first post and disagree with the second, or vice-versa. A little consistency would be nice.

Ski has presented evidence, and I haven't seen a single one of you offer any substantive criticism of his sources or their work.
These are RE scientists, working for RET, and yet you're all just sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending nothing has happened. Nobody has presented evidence of the coriolis effect in this thread. What has been presented is evidence that there are serious anomalies in the RET explanation.

buy an airplane. Fly it in a straight line directly to any location in the mid latitudes. You will not reach your destination if a straight path is taken. Try it yourself, either get a pilots license or make friends with a pilot, and do it. you will not reach your destination if you take a straight line course because the earth will continue rotating as you fly above it, this will result in your course being shifted to the right in the N. Hemisphere, which will be easily identifiable when you partake in this hands on proof of the Coriolis effect.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080101173751AAAXMck
The best answer isn't actually the best answer, as he doesn't nail the question directly. The second answer is the best. Note the username.

If the Earth is rotating (which it is), ...

Try it yourself, either get a pilots license or make friends with a pilot, and do it. you will not reach your destination if you take a straight line course because the earth will continue rotating as you fly above it

Quote from: Averti on November 02, 2010, 10:46:08 AM

Try it yourself, either get a pilots license or make friends with a pilot, and do it. you will not reach your destination if you take a straight line course because the earth will continue rotating as you fly above it

This means that if I get a hot air ballon and hover I will end up going around world in 24 hrs!  YAY!!!!

I see, you play the Ski card. Anyone isn't sticking their fingers to ears. Ski just pointed out that there is anomaly in specific case. What about it? Does that makes the Coriolis effect go away? Disproves it? Proves that the Earth doesn't rotate? No.

Quote from: zork on November 03, 2010, 03:14:33 PM

I see, you play the Ski card. Anyone isn't sticking their fingers to ears. Ski just pointed out that there is anomaly in specific case. What about it? Does that makes the Coriolis effect go away? Disproves it? Proves that the Earth doesn't rotate? No.

It shows that the heavens clearly influence the pendulums. Which is categorically denied or inexplicable by mainstream RE science, yet is the very thing FET affirms in it's explanation of the Coriolis effect.

If the heavens do not affect the pendulum, why is there such an anomaly? Of course the pendulum works under the heavens. The rotation of the heavens are what cause the rotation of pendulum and the coriolis effect.

If the heavens do not affect the pendulum, why is there such an anomaly? Of course the pendulum works under the heavens. The rotation of the heavens are what cause the rotation of pendulum and the coriolis effect.

Quote from: Ski on November 04, 2010, 08:01:59 PM

If the heavens do not affect the pendulum, why is there such an anomaly? Of course the pendulum works under the heavens. The rotation of the heavens are what cause the rotation of pendulum and the coriolis effect.

Why does the FP rotate in the opposite direction south of the Equator

Can FE make a sound prediction based on physics? Why would the heavens drag along the pendulum?

Quote from: ClockTower on November 05, 2010, 06:11:28 AM

Quote from: Ski on November 04, 2010, 08:01:59 PM

If the heavens do not affect the pendulum, why is there such an anomaly? Of course the pendulum works under the heavens. The rotation of the heavens are what cause the rotation of pendulum and the coriolis effect.

Why does the FP rotate in the opposite direction south of the Equator

Because the heavens rotate the opposite direction south of the equator.

Quote from: ClockTower on November 05, 2010, 06:11:28 AM

Quote from: Ski on November 04, 2010, 08:01:59 PM

If the heavens do not affect the pendulum, why is there such an anomaly? Of course the pendulum works under the heavens. The rotation of the heavens are what cause the rotation of pendulum and the coriolis effect.

Why does the FP rotate in the opposite direction south of the Equator

Because the heavens rotate the opposite direction south of the equator.