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Does Bigfoot exist?

I believe he exists
I believe he doesn't exist
He might exist

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Bigfoot
« on: January 06, 2009, 08:27:24 PM »
I've been thinking about this poll for a while now but finally decided to make it.
Personally, I believe Bigfoot does exist just because of all the evidence in his favor.
             
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 04:34:42 AM »
I've been thinking about this poll for a while now but finally decided to make it.
Personally, I believe Bigfoot does exist just because of all the evidence in his favor.
What you also have to consider is the evidence against, not just the evidence for.

Firstly, such a large creature would impact the environment. That is, there would be much more evidence other than a few random footprints that are dubious at best (and also that there is little similarity between many of the different footprints) and a few photos and videos (that again show a remarkable lack of similarity in the individuals shown).

If it is a predator, then you would be looking for Kill sights and impact on the existent predator species (a large predator would suppress the number of other predators in the area and this have never been observed). Also, it would have an impact on Prey species, which also has never been observed. This rules out BF as a predator species.

If it is a herbivore, then it would ahve an impact on vegetation. There is a minimum population size/density and for a creature as big as BF is (human sized) this would leave a very large impact on the surrounding vegetation (think about how much food a small village eats, and this would be the impact of a small group of like sized individuals).

Now, onto populations.

To avoid inbreeding, then a species that has a similar amount of offspring to humans would require a similar level of minimum population levels to avoid inbreeding. Now for Humans, this is, with careful genealogical record keeping, about 1000 individuals. Without, this careful intervention, it would be around 1500 to 3000 individuals.

So, any population of BF would have to be at least similar in size, but any population of this size of human sized creatures would make enough impact on the environment that iy would show up on aria photos. This has never been observed.

So the evidence that you would expect a population of BF to leave just is not there. One or two footprints might be acceptable for a small population of widely dispersed creatures, but even then there is a host of other ancillary evidence (eating habits, droppings, lairs/nests, etc) that just is not found.

Usually when these rare animals are found, they are usually unique (escaped animals), or inbreeding populations (or widely dispersed and long travelling creatures - like birds). A creature that has existed in the areas for hundreds of years can not be inbreeding (or they would have become extinct by now), and being human sized and shaped will not be long travelling).

The evidence against BF is far more than the evidence for it, and much of the evidence against BF rules it out regardless of the evidence for it as it conclusively states that it could not exist (it would have become extinct by now either through inbreeding or though the population being too dispersed so that mating would be impossible).
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 05:37:44 AM »
So you don't believe in bigfoot?
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 07:50:49 AM »
It's possible but unlikely.  It would be cool, though.
You think that a photograph is indisputable evidence?  Would you like me to show you a photograph of Barack Obama having sex with a gorilla?

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2009, 07:59:49 AM »
I've been thinking about this poll for a while now but finally decided to make it.
Personally, I believe Bigfoot does exist just because of all the evidence in his favor.
             
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No shit  ::)...you also believe in God, so there's not much surprise here. Now you're a Christfag and a Sasquatchfag.
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Chris Spaghetti

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2009, 08:30:15 AM »
At least there's evidence for sasquatch...

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KingMan

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2009, 03:45:10 PM »
I've been thinking about this poll for a while now but finally decided to make it.
Personally, I believe Bigfoot does exist just because of all the evidence in his favor.
             
                  GO SASQUATCH!!

No shit  ::)...you also believe in God, so there's not much surprise here. Now you're a Christfag and a Sasquatchfag.
Says the Atheifag
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Benocrates

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2009, 06:44:45 PM »
Quote from: President Barack Obama
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Get the fuck over it.

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 09:28:36 PM »


Eyes.

Scary.

STOP STARING AT ME DAMMIT. I SEE YOU RIGHT NEXT TO MY ONSCREEN KEYBOARD. HAH. I COVERED YOU. HOW DO YA LEIK THAT CREEPCAT?!

In other news, Bigfoot does not exist. He would destroy the theories of a flat earth with his shockingly high intellect and big feet if he did. Duhr.

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 09:38:59 PM »

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Wendy

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 10:31:33 PM »
Unlike your God character, this one is actually plausible. I find it billions of times more likely that there's a large, hairy humanoid somewhere in the forests in north America than the notion that there's some sort of extradimensional, omniscient being whom you can ask for favours, should you sufficiently believe in him.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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KingMan

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 11:26:36 PM »
Unlike your God character, this one is actually plausible. I find it billions of times more likely that there's a large, hairy humanoid somewhere in the forests in north America than the notion that there's some sort of extradimensional, omniscient being whom you can ask for favours, should you sufficiently believe in him.
I stopped visiting the Religion and Philosophy forum because I was done argueing with you guys. If you want to keep on Argueing about my Religion do it somewhere else.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 11:45:53 PM »
Define bigfoot. Do you propose an apelike humanoid that:
  • Doesn't belong to any species (one of a kind)
  • Has never been successfully tracked
  • Roams several the continents without being seen anywhere in between
  • Has been proven to be impersonated by many people
  • And is nearly 200 years old?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2009, 09:11:59 PM by ﮎingulaЯiτy »
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KingMan

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 11:51:31 PM »
Define bigfoot. Do you propose an apelike humanoid that:
  • Doesn't belong to any belonging to any species (one of a kind)
  • Has never been successfully tracked
  • Roams several the continents without being seen anywhere in between
  • Has been proven to be impersonated by many people
  • And is nearly 200 years old?
Yep, thats the one
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ﮎingulaЯiτy

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 11:56:48 PM »
Alright...
  • How do you believe he came to exist without a species?
  • Why is he the only animal that humans cannot track?
  • How does he effectively teleport around the globe, and why? Other animals migrate at most.
  • What makes you think all sightings and evidence haven't been faked?
  • How can an ape/human creature still be alive after 200 years and still romp the woods?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2009, 11:58:36 PM by ﮎingulaЯiτy »
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2009, 01:08:01 AM »
Unlike your God character, this one is actually plausible. I find it billions of times more likely that there's a large, hairy humanoid somewhere in the forests in north America than the notion that there's some sort of extradimensional, omniscient being whom you can ask for favours, should you sufficiently believe in him.
I stopped visiting the Religion and Philosophy forum because I was done argueing with you guys. If you want to keep on Argueing about my Religion do it somewhere else.

Still, you have to admit that it seems more likely to be true. Anyway, I'd much rather argue over your spelling right now.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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Wendy

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2009, 01:10:25 AM »
Define bigfoot. Do you propose an apelike humanoid that:
  • Doesn't belong to any belonging to any species (one of a kind)
  • Has never been successfully tracked
  • Roams several the continents without being seen anywhere in between
  • Has been proven to be impersonated by many people
  • And is nearly 200 years old?

This grammar is atrocious. Who are you, and what have you done to ﮎingulaЯiτy?
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2009, 04:29:32 AM »
Quote
How do you believe he came to exist without a species?
Why is he the only animal that humans cannot track?
How does he effectively teleport around the globe, and why? Other animals migrate at most.
What makes you think all sightings and evidence haven't been faked?
How can an ape/human creature still be alive after 200 years and still romp the woods?

I doubt that any of the Sasquatch theorists believe that he doesn't belong to a species and that it's the same 200 year old creature in every picture.  ::)
« Last Edit: January 10, 2009, 06:27:23 AM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2009, 05:32:17 AM »
Unlike your God character, this one is actually plausible. I find it billions of times more likely that there's a large, hairy humanoid somewhere in the forests in north America than the notion that there's some sort of extradimensional, omniscient being whom you can ask for favours, should you sufficiently believe in him.
I stopped visiting the Religion and Philosophy forum because I was done argueing with you guys. If you want to keep on Argueing about my Religion do it somewhere else.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2009, 07:20:19 AM »
Unlike your God character, this one is actually plausible. I find it billions of times more likely that there's a large, hairy humanoid somewhere in the forests in north America than the notion that there's some sort of extradimensional, omniscient being whom you can ask for favours, should you sufficiently believe in him.
I stopped visiting the Religion and Philosophy forum because I was done argueing with you guys. If you want to keep on Argueing about my Religion do it somewhere else.

Can we focus on your spelling then?
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 08:15:58 AM »
      GO SASQUATCH!!
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Wendy

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2009, 08:37:12 AM »
The internet itself is a furry. It's hard to prevent.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2009, 08:45:30 AM »
I saw a show, where a woman claimed she was raped by bigfoot.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2009, 08:48:53 AM »
I saw a show, where a woman claimed she was raped by bigfoot.
A guy said that he was molested by bigfoot in order to plead insane for a crime he commited. It didn't work and he's in jail.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2009, 09:02:27 AM »
I saw a show, where a woman claimed she was raped by bigfoot.
A guy said that he was molested by bigfoot in order to plead insane for a crime he commited. It didn't work and he's in jail.

Epic. I love show about Bigfoot, and all the idiots trying to chase him. One of them said that Stalin tried to crossbreed gorillas and humans.
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2009, 09:05:28 AM »
I saw a show, where a woman claimed she was raped by bigfoot.
A guy said that he was molested by bigfoot in order to plead insane for a crime he commited. It didn't work and he's in jail.

Epic. I love show about Bigfoot, and all the idiots trying to chase him. One of them said that Stalin tried to crossbreed gorillas and humans.
MAle gorrilas with human women, or Female Gorrillas with Human men?
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Wendy

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2009, 09:07:29 AM »
Female gorillas, human men. Because human women would never agree to it, and human men... Are human men.
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KingMan

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2009, 09:08:54 AM »
Female gorillas, human men. Because human women would never agree to it, and human men... Are human men.
Even I wouldn't hit that
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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2009, 09:15:54 AM »
Actually, no secks was involved I think. They just tried to inseminate the female gorillas.
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Wendy

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Re: Bigfoot
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2009, 09:21:22 AM »
Your tax payer's money at hard work! ;D
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