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Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« on: November 20, 2007, 05:24:18 PM »
I have a few questions...

Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

Tides: How come people can't detect it when their whole house suddenly tilts? Even if it is really small, I'm sure people could still detect it.

Air travel: Why does it take less time to travel from the UK to the US if you go up towards the north pole than curve back down?

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 05:27:02 PM »
I can answer the tides one for you...

apparently there is an 'anti-moon' which keeps the tides in check. This is all i know about it. Ask Username for more information.

Don't believe everything you read in the FAQ, a lot of the FE'rs simply don't believe it and/or have their own theories.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 05:27:51 PM »
Quote from: George_Bush on November 20, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
I have a few questions...

Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

Perhaps it has no gravitational pull.
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Tides: How come people can't detect it when their whole house suddenly tilts? Even if it is really small, I'm sure people could still detect it.

The Earth does  not tilt. The moon and antimoon account for tides.

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Air travel: Why does it take less time to travel from the UK to the US if you go up towards the north pole than curve back down?

Jetstreams.
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George_Bush

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 05:29:21 PM »
Quote from: Agent Z on November 20, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: George_Bush on November 20, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
I have a few questions...

Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

Perhaps it has no gravitational pull.
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Tides: How come people can't detect it when their whole house suddenly tilts? Even if it is really small, I'm sure people could still detect it.

The Earth does  not tilt. The moon and antimoon account for tides.

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Air travel: Why does it take less time to travel from the UK to the US if you go up towards the north pole than curve back down?

Jetstreams.

I fail to see how jetstreams can exist on a flat earth, and everything has a gravitational pull.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 05:31:06 PM by George_Bush »
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Loard Z

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 05:30:34 PM »
Well, since they do exist, and the earth is flat, you fail.
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if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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George_Bush

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 05:33:03 PM »
Quote from: Agent Z on November 20, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
Well, since they do exist, and the earth is flat, you fail.

Wow, that was the lamest post ever.
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Loard Z

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 05:35:24 PM »
except, of course, for your rebuttal, which was even lamer.
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George_Bush

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 05:36:34 PM »
Quote from: Agent Z on November 20, 2007, 05:35:24 PM
except, of course, for your rebuttal, which was even lamer.

Actually, I didn't think it was lame at all.
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Loard Z

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 05:37:46 PM »
indeed it was, because it successfully allowed me to steer you sufficiently off topic to declare victory:

ANOTHER WIN FOR FE!!!!!!
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if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 05:38:37 PM »
Quote from: George_Bush on November 20, 2007, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: Agent Z on November 20, 2007, 05:30:34 PM
Well, since they do exist, and the earth is flat, you fail.

Wow, that was the lamest post ever.
And your point is?
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 05:39:17 PM »
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Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

No one can see the Shadow Object because it's a celestial body sitting in the multiple stellar system moving above our heads at one rotation per twenty four hours. The Shadow Object is caught in the swirling multiple system above us, which means that it rotates with the stars. The Shadow Object sits in between the stars, which is why it does not occult or block them out.

Twice a year the shadow object will intersect the light between the sun and moon to create the lunar eclipse. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has equations which accurately predicts the time, magnitude, and duration of a lunar eclipse in his book Earth Not a Globe. The book is available in full online.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 05:43:04 PM by Tom Bishop »
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George_Bush

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 05:40:52 PM »
Quote from: Agent Z on November 20, 2007, 05:37:46 PM
indeed it was, because it successfully allowed me to steer you sufficiently off topic to declare victory:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18145.0
ANOTHER WIN FOR FE!!!!!!

Instead of acting like an eight year old, maybe you should actually get around to answering my question. ::)
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 05:42:10 PM »
Quote from: George_Bush on November 20, 2007, 05:40:52 PM
Instead of acting like an eight year old, maybe you should actually get around to answering my question. ::)
Your question is already answered.
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Loard Z

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 05:42:46 PM »
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what he said.
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Quote from: eric bloedow on January 08, 2008, 04:03:12 PM
if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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eric bloedow

Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 06:06:54 PM »
i haven't read that book, but i will bet it uses the EXACT SAME equations as predicting the moon's movements...

and did robotham make formulas for predicting SOLAR eclipses?

that also fails to account for the FACT that the "shadow object" has NEVER been seen to block the light from ANY star...oh, i forgot, Tom thinks the stars are even smaller and closer than the moon and sun!
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George_Bush

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 06:45:58 PM »
Quote from: Jack- on November 20, 2007, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: George_Bush on November 20, 2007, 05:40:52 PM
Instead of acting like an eight year old, maybe you should actually get around to answering my question. ::)
Your question is already answered.

Well I refreshed the page too late.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2007, 09:45:46 AM »
Quote from: paradiselost on November 20, 2007, 05:27:02 PM
I can answer the tides one for you...

apparently there is an 'anti-moon' which keeps the tides in check. This is all i know about it. Ask Username for more information.

Don't believe everything you read in the FAQ, a lot of the FE'rs simply don't believe it and/or have their own theories.

This "anti moon" which didn't exist 6 months ago since i was last here. How can FE'ers know of a moon BELOW earth where they can't see it?
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Loard Z

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2007, 10:00:31 AM »
Because it explains FET better. Obviously ::)
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SparteX

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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2007, 01:34:01 PM »
Pretty much. No anti moon was ever mention the last i visited. and all of a sudden it has appeared out of the blue. come on i'm waiting for an explanation of how you even know this anti moon exists when it's below the disc and why it's only appeared over the last 6 months.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2007, 01:38:50 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 20, 2007, 05:39:17 PM
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Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

No one can see the Shadow Object because it's a celestial body sitting in the multiple stellar system moving above our heads at one rotation per twenty four hours. The Shadow Object is caught in the swirling multiple system above us, which means that it rotates with the stars. The Shadow Object sits in between the stars, which is why it does not occult or block them out.

Twice a year the shadow object will intersect the light between the sun and moon to create the lunar eclipse. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has equations which accurately predicts the time, magnitude, and duration of a lunar eclipse in his book Earth Not a Globe. The book is available in full online.

Actually, the moon is a whole lot bigger than the free space in between stars. The ones you see on a clear night while laying on your front lawn are most obvious but dim ones much further away occupy space everywhere.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2007, 01:44:00 PM »
To re-enforce his point i think you'll find while out at sea away from all light pollution while the sky is clear, there isn't a single patch of sky devoid of stars and dust clouds.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2007, 01:53:06 PM »
Quote from: Yiak on November 21, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 20, 2007, 05:39:17 PM
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Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

No one can see the Shadow Object because it's a celestial body sitting in the multiple stellar system moving above our heads at one rotation per twenty four hours. The Shadow Object is caught in the swirling multiple system above us, which means that it rotates with the stars. The Shadow Object sits in between the stars, which is why it does not occult or block them out.

Twice a year the shadow object will intersect the light between the sun and moon to create the lunar eclipse. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has equations which accurately predicts the time, magnitude, and duration of a lunar eclipse in his book Earth Not a Globe. The book is available in full online.

Actually, the moon is a whole lot bigger than the free space in between stars. The ones you see on a clear night while laying on your front lawn are most obvious but dim ones much further away occupy space everywhere.

Why does the Shadow Object have to be as large as the moon?

A basketball could obscure the moon if it was close enough to the sun.
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2007, 01:56:50 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 21, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Yiak on November 21, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 20, 2007, 05:39:17 PM
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Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

No one can see the Shadow Object because it's a celestial body sitting in the multiple stellar system moving above our heads at one rotation per twenty four hours. The Shadow Object is caught in the swirling multiple system above us, which means that it rotates with the stars. The Shadow Object sits in between the stars, which is why it does not occult or block them out.

Twice a year the shadow object will intersect the light between the sun and moon to create the lunar eclipse. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has equations which accurately predicts the time, magnitude, and duration of a lunar eclipse in his book Earth Not a Globe. The book is available in full online.

Actually, the moon is a whole lot bigger than the free space in between stars. The ones you see on a clear night while laying on your front lawn are most obvious but dim ones much further away occupy space everywhere.

Why does the Shadow Object have to be as large as the moon?

A basketball could obscure the moon if it was close enough to the sun.
Our size perspective of the moon in the sky is far too large to sit between any two stars
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eric bloedow

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2007, 02:45:01 PM »
oh, sure it could, IF the sun was even smaller than a basketball! sheesh...

reminds me of a "calvin and hobbes" cartoon where "dad" said the sun was the size of a QUARTER!
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2007, 03:26:12 PM »
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oh, sure it could, IF the sun was even smaller than a basketball! sheesh...

Do I really need to take you through the first grade again?

A flashlight is shining on the wall and we are making a shadow puppet show. The closer we move our hands to the light source, the bigger the shadow of our hands will be upon the wall.

A three foot diameter spotlight is shining on the wall and we are making a shadow puppet show. The closer we move our hands to the source, the bigger the shadow of our hands will be upon the wall.

A lightbulb is the only lightsource in an empty room and we are making a shadow puppet show. The closer we move our hands to the source, the bigger the shadow of our hands will be upon the wall.
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eric bloedow

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2007, 03:38:34 PM »
BUT...in your example, the person's hands are BIGGER than the light bulb!

put a lamp in the middle of the room, and you could make big shadow puppets on one wall but have NO shadows on the opposite wall.

so you think the sun is like a spotlight, in that it sends it's light ONLY in ONE direction?

then explain how VENUS is sometimes visible during the day!

if the object was smaller than the sun, it would only block PART of the sun, making a black spot on the sun but only making a small reduction in brightness!
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2007, 03:41:31 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 21, 2007, 03:38:34 PM
BUT...in your example, the person's hands are BIGGER than the light bulb!

put a lamp in the middle of the room, and you could make big shadow puppets on one wall but have NO shadows on the opposite wall.

so you think the sun is like a spotlight, in that it sends it's light ONLY in ONE direction?

then explain how VENUS is sometimes visible during the day!

if the object was smaller than the sun, it would only block PART of the sun, making a black spot on the sun but only making a small reduction in brightness!

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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2007, 04:54:43 PM »
He does have a point even if it is not clear to you.  ::) Take a bonfire for instance. Put a penny in front and see if it casts a shadow. Guess what, you can even tell.
The sun's rays would only be blocked by an object of equal size or larger. ...Unless the object was close to the moon and was equal or greater size than the moon.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2007, 11:17:36 PM »
I know that he has a point.  It's just the way he said it.  Some of it made no sense at all. :D
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Re: Shadow object, tides, and air travel
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2007, 05:52:45 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 21, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Yiak on November 21, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 20, 2007, 05:39:17 PM
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Shadow Object: How come no one has ever seen it, and how come we can't detect it's gravitational pull?

No one can see the Shadow Object because it's a celestial body sitting in the multiple stellar system moving above our heads at one rotation per twenty four hours. The Shadow Object is caught in the swirling multiple system above us, which means that it rotates with the stars. The Shadow Object sits in between the stars, which is why it does not occult or block them out.

Twice a year the shadow object will intersect the light between the sun and moon to create the lunar eclipse. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham has equations which accurately predicts the time, magnitude, and duration of a lunar eclipse in his book Earth Not a Globe. The book is available in full online.

Actually, the moon is a whole lot bigger than the free space in between stars. The ones you see on a clear night while laying on your front lawn are most obvious but dim ones much further away occupy space everywhere.

Why does the Shadow Object have to be as large as the moon?

A basketball could obscure the moon if it was close enough to the sun.

Tom, you are, as always, amazing. I had to smoke a cigarette after that one.
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