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So I'm new...
« on: October 22, 2007, 06:33:09 PM »
Okay first question, what are these experiments that we can do to prove the world is flat? Is anyone on here an actual scientist that has gone to at least graduate school? I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just curious...really.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 06:48:54 PM »
The experiments are contained in Earth: Not A Globe.

As for your other question, I'm not sure what TheEngineer has taken, but I don't think anyone else around here is old enough to have completed graduate school.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 07:35:52 PM »
I have a degree.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2007, 02:30:19 AM »
There are no such experiments, just believe!

Don't believe anything Tom Bishop says
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2007, 03:35:08 AM »
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Don't believe anything Tom Bishop says

The same goes for all his clones.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2007, 05:33:49 AM »
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2007, 08:04:32 AM »
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Don't believe anything Tom Bishop says

The same goes for all his clones.
divito the fascist is awsome!
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2007, 10:02:45 AM »
Quote from: divito the fascist on October 22, 2007, 06:48:54 PM
I don't think anyone else around here is old enough to have completed graduate school.

No wonder the "theory" you have concocted is both ludicrous and half baked.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2007, 10:18:31 AM »
Quote from: Sub-D on October 23, 2007, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: divito the fascist on October 22, 2007, 06:48:54 PM
I don't think anyone else around here is old enough to have completed graduate school.

No wonder the "theory" you have concocted is both ludicrous and half baked.

But can you prove it incorrect?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2007, 10:23:27 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 23, 2007, 10:18:31 AM
But can you prove it incorrect?

Can you prove our theories (that have evidence - imagine that!) incorrect?

Anyway, go and learn:

http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae535.cfm

Maybe the Earth having a horizon is a conspiracy!
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2007, 11:01:18 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 23, 2007, 10:18:31 AM
Quote from: Sub-D on October 23, 2007, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: divito the fascist on October 22, 2007, 06:48:54 PM
I don't think anyone else around here is old enough to have completed graduate school.

No wonder the "theory" you have concocted is both ludicrous and half baked.

But can you prove it incorrect?

Yes. And we have many times but you FE morons keep ignoring us.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2007, 11:18:54 AM »
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Can you prove our theories (that have evidence - imagine that!) incorrect?

Yep. Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham and co. have provided hundreds of pieces of experimental evidence which directly contradicts RE predictions. Read his book Earth Not a Globe.

Also read Zetetic Cosmogony by Thomas Winship for additional evidence contradicting Round Earth Theory.

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http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae535.cfm

The Ship Effect and other phenomenas supposing a convexity to the earth have been contradicted by observational evidence. It has been demonstrated beyond all shadow of a doubt that these are illusions of perspective and nothing more. They will occur when receding bodies intersect with the vanishing point. As a ship recedes into the ocean's horizon, distant from the observer, it will appear to the naked eye to sink from the bottom up into the sea when it touches the horizon line, intersecting with the vanishing point. It has been found that the sinking of a ship as it recedes is in perspective only. The ship is not physically sinking, but as the ship intersects with the vanishing point it will appear to sink form the bottom up.

It has been proven that this effect is purely perceptual, that a good telescope with sufficient zoom will change the observer's perspective and bring the ship's hull back in full view. This is not possible if the ship were really behind a "hill of water." Hence, the effect which is usually thought to prove the earth as a globe really proves it to be a plane.

The ship's hull, distant from the observer, it will appear to the naked eye to sink from the bottom up into the sea when it touches the horizon line. It has been found that this effect is purely perceptual, that a good telescope with sufficient zoom will change the observer's perspective and bring the ship's hull back in full view. This is not possible if the ship were really behind a "hill of water." Hence, the effect which is usually thought to prove the earth as a globe really proves it to be a plane.

From Zetetic Cosmogony by Thomas Winship:











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Yes. And we have many times but you FE morons keep ignoring us.

I have never seen anything conclusive supporting a Round Earth. Why don't you show me?
« Last Edit: October 23, 2007, 11:21:49 AM by Tom Bishop »
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 12:43:46 PM »
Quote from: Sub-D on October 23, 2007, 10:02:45 AM
No wonder the "theory" you have concocted is both ludicrous and half baked.

That I concocted?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2007, 02:56:45 PM »
The sinking ship effect is bull. ENaG and Zetetic Cosmogony are both bull.

Tom Bishop cannot physically see anything proving RE because of a rare brain disease.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2007, 03:01:08 PM »
Quote from: Hypnobishop on October 23, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
The sinking ship effect is bull. ENaG and Zetetic Cosmogony are both bull.

Tom Bishop cannot physically see anything proving RE because of a rare brain disease.

And I suppose that the documentary on the Discovery Channel which proves that the earth flat and demonstrates these experiments on camera is also bull, right?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2007, 03:02:11 PM »
Yep. Made by the badgers.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2007, 03:13:46 PM »
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2007, 04:52:36 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 23, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Hypnobishop on October 23, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
The sinking ship effect is bull. ENaG and Zetetic Cosmogony are both bull.

Tom Bishop cannot physically see anything proving RE because of a rare brain disease.

And I suppose that the documentary on the Discovery Channel which proves that the earth flat and demonstrates these experiments on camera is also bull, right?

I find it quite strange that you are distinctly absent every time someone comes up with something that completely disproves your theory. These threads strangely seem to get locked, or moved to angry ranting too....
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2007, 06:14:08 PM »
Quote from: Z-To-Impress on October 23, 2007, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 23, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Hypnobishop on October 23, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
The sinking ship effect is bull. ENaG and Zetetic Cosmogony are both bull.

Tom Bishop cannot physically see anything proving RE because of a rare brain disease.

And I suppose that the documentary on the Discovery Channel which proves that the earth flat and demonstrates these experiments on camera is also bull, right?

I find it quite strange that you are distinctly absent every time someone comes up with something that completely disproves your theory. These threads strangely seem to get locked, or moved to angry ranting too....
(conspiracy?)

No they don't, these threads are all over the place in the debate area.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2007, 02:21:25 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on October 23, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Hypnobishop on October 23, 2007, 02:56:45 PM
The sinking ship effect is bull. ENaG and Zetetic Cosmogony are both bull.

Tom Bishop cannot physically see anything proving RE because of a rare brain disease.

And I suppose that the documentary on the Discovery Channel which proves that the earth flat and demonstrates these experiments on camera is also bull, right?

Also, since you have disqualified all photographic evidence, you cannot use that to prove your theory.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2007, 07:34:15 AM »
But the round earth hasn't disqualified photographic evidence...
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2007, 03:50:28 PM »
Quote from: Username on October 24, 2007, 07:34:15 AM
But the round earth hasn't disqualified photographic evidence...

So what you're saying is, photographic evidence CANNOT be used to disprove FE theory, but it CAN be used to disprove RE?
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I've never seen any round earth. Why should I believe in something I've never seen?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2007, 05:31:10 AM »
Photographic evidence is not valid on these forums.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2007, 06:34:29 AM »
Quote from: ChiefConspirator on October 24, 2007, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Username on October 24, 2007, 07:34:15 AM
But the round earth hasn't disqualified photographic evidence...

So what you're saying is, photographic evidence CANNOT be used to disprove FE theory, but it CAN be used to disprove RE?
I agree its not valid on these forums.

However, if your argument holds the pictures valid, why would you object to them being used?  Does the RE now think that the discovery channel is part of some FE conspiracy?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2007, 03:39:35 PM »
Quote from: Username on October 25, 2007, 06:34:29 AM
Quote from: ChiefConspirator on October 24, 2007, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Username on October 24, 2007, 07:34:15 AM
But the round earth hasn't disqualified photographic evidence...

So what you're saying is, photographic evidence CANNOT be used to disprove FE theory, but it CAN be used to disprove RE?
I agree its not valid on these forums.

However, if your argument holds the pictures valid, why would you object to them being used?  Does the RE now think that the discovery channel is part of some FE conspiracy?

It's as valid as the FE theory's conspiracy. Hence why photographic evidence cannot be used, it is too easily faked.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2007, 03:45:09 PM »

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It's as valid as the FE theory's conspiracy. Hence why photographic evidence cannot be used, it is too easily faked.

So you do believe the Discovery Channel is part of a FE conspiracy?  OR do you except their word? OR do you have some third alternative?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2007, 03:48:35 PM »
Do you except that there is a third alternative? The Earth is round, the Discovery Channel documentary is just fabricated bullshit, but not made by an FE conspiracy, you see I'm not paranoid.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2007, 04:13:25 PM »
Quote from: Monsieur Bishope on October 26, 2007, 03:48:35 PM
Do you except that there is a third alternative? The Earth is round, the Discovery Channel documentary is just fabricated bullshit, but not made by an FE conspiracy, you see I'm not paranoid.
Why would the Discovery Channel fabricate this?
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2007, 06:03:12 PM »
basically if a photo proves Round Earth it is rejected. If a 1hr montage of photographs plus uncited facts plus pure speculation, (including purely speculative and unsourced video/pictures and data) appears, Flat Earth is round.
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Re: So I'm new...
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2007, 01:21:15 PM »
Quote from: Z-To-Impress on October 26, 2007, 06:03:12 PM
basically if a photo proves Round Earth it is rejected. If a 1hr montage of photographs plus uncited facts plus pure speculation, (including purely speculative and unsourced video/pictures and data) appears, Flat Earth is round.

amen. that's exactly the problem i've been having with fe'er's selective use of photographs. they just make and alter the rules for evidence submission and quality standars up as they go.
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